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Varsity_Lu
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800 With Only CCs

One of my goals is to acquire an 800+ FICO score. My main obstacle is that I don't have any loans: no mortgage, no car loans, no student loans. I had a mortgage for a few years, but that was 20 years ago. Never had a car loan or student loan. I lived the cash only life for quite a while and only recently started down the CC path the last 2 years.

So, my question is this: what metrics do I need to get to in order to go above 800? I have 100% payment history and $49,100  credit limit (accounting for being an AU on my wife's cards) with less than 2% utilization rate. My oldest account is 21+ years, but my average age is around 9 years. I guess that is due to the recent CCs.

What should my target goals look like?

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pizzadude
Credit Mentor

Re: 800 With Only CCs

Hitting 800s without an installment loan is doable, probably your AAOA as you mentioned might be lower than ideal.

 

What do your FICO scores look like now ?

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Varsity_Lu
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Re: 800 With Only CCs

Eq 8: 783 and Ex 8: 775

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GZG
Senior Contributor

Re: 800 With Only CCs


@Varsity_Lu wrote:

 (accounting for being an AU on my wife's cards)


for all AU cards, is at least one reporting a balance every month? otherwise you incur the all-zero AU penalty

 

but honestly, if you have no plans for another open loan in the next ~3 years, just get a 5-10 year PenFed or Navy Fed SSL 

 

https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Successful-PenFed-SSL-Loan/m-p/6773999 

https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Understanding-FICO-Scoring/Adding-an-installment-loan-the-Share-Sec... 

 

Deposit $3k, wait the 30 days (penfed only), take out the loan, pay it down to $2800 and you'll get all of the loan points for the next 5-10 years

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: 800 With Only CCs


@Varsity_Lu wrote:

One of my goals is to acquire an 800+ FICO score. My main obstacle is that I don't have any loans: no mortgage, no car loans, no student loans. I had a mortgage for a few years, but that was 20 years ago. Never had a car loan or student loan. I lived the cash only life for quite a while and only recently started down the CC path the last 2 years.

So, my question is this: what metrics do I need to get to in order to go above 800? I have 100% payment history and $49,100  credit limit (accounting for being an AU on my wife's cards) with less than 2% utilization rate. My oldest account is 21+ years, but my average age is around 9 years. I guess that is due to the recent CCs.

What should my target goals look like?


I don't see any barrier to your reaching 800 and above in the near future, as long as you don't apply for new credit. I assume some of the credit cards are your own, rather than authorized user cards.


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FicoMike0
Valued Contributor

Re: 800 With Only CCs

Go bucks!

I'm in a similar situation. Recovering from credit retirement. Mortgage and car loans all over the 10 year event horizon. No baddies, but two years ago I was unscorable. My age metrics and fico scores are being propped up by a couple of accounts that closed about 8 years ago.

I started about 22 months ago, my longtime bank huntington fixed me up with their MasterCard and a $500 cl. This account then made me scorable. I'm up to 8 cards now,  cl > $50k. I've been doing azeo, aze3 now.

My concern is that when those closed accounts disappear, my scores will crash. To guard against this, I opened a ssl with penfed. Got a 30-40 point boost, cost ~$10. I'm now above 800, except ex, at 794. 

I'm planning to have my aoya pass 12 months about the same time I lose the old accounts.

 

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Varsity_Lu
Established Contributor

Re: 800 With Only CCs


@SouthJamaica wrote:


I don't see any barrier to your reaching 800 and above in the near future, as long as you don't apply for new credit. I assume some of the credit cards are your own, rather than authorized user cards.


Yes.  I am the primary cardholder with the cards listed below.  My wife has similar cards that I am AU on.  The two Cap One cards are fee free and she just got them for the SUB.  She got a second BCP because we max out the $6k grocery cap on both cards. I also wanted her to have some cards with her as the primary in case something happened to me (or vice versa). I would hate to have all my accounts closed and leave her scrambling to set up new accounts.  

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Varsity_Lu
Established Contributor

Re: 800 With Only CCs


@FicoMike0 wrote:

Go bucks!

I'm in a similar situation. Recovering from credit retirement. Mortgage and car loans all over the 10 year event horizon. No baddies, but two years ago I was unscorable. My age metrics and fico scores are being propped up by a couple of accounts that closed about 8 years ago.

I started about 22 months ago, my longtime bank huntington fixed me up with their MasterCard and a $500 cl. This account then made me scorable. I'm up to 8 cards now,  cl > $50k. I've been doing azeo, aze3 now.

My concern is that when those closed accounts disappear, my scores will crash. To guard against this, I opened a ssl with penfed. Got a 30-40 point boost, cost ~$10. I'm now above 800, except ex, at 794. 

I'm planning to have my aoya pass 12 months about the same time I lose the old accounts.

 


"Unscorable".  That's exactly what happend to me two years ago.  I was putting an addition on my house and tried to get some same-as-cash deal at Lowes and they rejected me.  I was like, "Dude, I have zero debt and $70k sitting in my savings earmarked for this project and you are telling me I am a risk?"  Needless to say I was ticked and decided to open an accout to get the score rolling.  Your story seems similar to mine.  

 

By the way, I just opned the Huntington Voice card.  I plan to use it only for my utilites since I have my other big categories covered.  What has your experinece been with that card & Huntington?

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: 800 With Only CCs

 

A +800 Fico 8 or Fico 9 score can be achieved with no loans open or closed and no AU accounts. A couple credit cards will do the trick as long as you avoid HPs and opening of new accounts. Three cards is better.

 

When my daughter surpassed 800 with just 2 cards, her AoOA was over 5 years, AAoA was 5 years and AoYA was 5 years. No inquiries on file and utilization under 9%. I suspect AoOA needs to be 5 years, AAoA 3 years and AoYA 2 years for a squeaky clean, 2 card only, file to surpass 800. An AoYA of 1 mighy be sufficient with the OP's 4 cards.

 

A mostly paid down SSL (under 9% B/L) added to the 4 card file could drop time frame to 3 years for AoOA. However, adding a SSL would drop AAoA and AoYA.

 

* Note: Fico looks at AAoA and AoOA for installment loans independent of revolving accounts in scoring, not just aggregate B/L.

 

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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Varsity_Lu
Established Contributor

Re: 800 With Only CCs

@GZG 

 

All-zero AU penalty? Could you explain this, please?

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