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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: 900 Club...

Trudy, you are a rare bird Smiley LOL -

So far you are the only poster I have come across reporting an EQ 900. All other 900's were TU and/or EX and were Fico 8. Yours is the 1st Fico 9, 900, I have seen.

 

Fun facts -

1) Not all industry option Fico 9's actually go all the way to 900 for real world scores. Guess which one(s) don't and what the max real world score(s) are.

2) It is harder to get Bankcard Fico 9's above 880 than Auto Fico 9's. Not sure why.

 

What are your bankcard Fico 9 scores and your bankcard/auto Fico 8 scores?

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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Trudy
Valued Contributor

Re: 900 Club...


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

Trudy, you are a rare bird Smiley LOL -

So far you are the only poster I have come across reporting an EQ 900. All other 900's were TU and/or EX and were Fico 8. Yours is the 1st Fico 9, 900, I have seen.

 

Fun facts -

1) Not all industry option Fico 9's actually go all the way to 900 for real world scores. Guess which one(s) don't and what the max real world score(s) are.  Well a review of the link you provided up thread looks like EX BC9 and EQBC9 are the only ones Smiley Indifferent ??  I won't even try to guess the max, no clue.

2) It is harder to get Bankcard Fico 9's above 880 than Auto Fico 9's. Not sure why. As of 3/9 EQ BC9 is 888.  EQ Heart me (at least today).

 

What are your bankcard Fico 9 scores and your bankcard/auto Fico 8 scores?

BC9.pngBC8.pngAuto8.png


And on 9/2, before my new 9/2019 account hit, resetting AoYA(r) to zero these were my BC8 and Auto 8 scores.  TU and EQ was a little higher back then with a higher AGG revolver UTL of 9.3%.  Industry 9's were a little lower then compared to now. 

*In September I had one 30 day left on EX (not on the others) that was not removed until late October.

BC8 9-2.png

Auto 8 9-2.png

FICO - 8: 05/05/23
Message 22 of 43
Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: 900 Club...


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

@Trudy wrote:

I know other's have reached 900 on the industry scores but was unable to find a "900 Club" thread.  It was just a bit weird to see it today when I pulled my scores.  I think EQ loves me Heart

 

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Congratulations.

 

Equifax has been my Nemesis. Got my 1st double Fico 8 900 on the Bankcard version back in 2015.  Never able to get a 900 on EQ (topped out at 892).

 

Always stopped shy of 900 on Fico 8 Auto (topped out at 897 on TU and EX). - Because I have no auto loan history on file?

 

BC Fico 8 double 900s.jpg


Probably actually.

 

There is a reason code on some flavors of the AU industry options where "no recent auto loan activity" is a thing, think it shows up perhaps after 4 years or so at least when I saw it in my reports with a paid off autoloan on my file.

 

Can't think of any other reason you wouldn't be max there with your godlike file especially prior to the CLI HP, though it might weight installment utilization more strongly too.  I have never really cared much about the AU scores but with access to Experian's CMS I guess I could try to do some analysis on them I just don't find them all that relevant given that if my classic FICO 8 is good (or bad) the industry options will be close to the same and auto loans aren't hard to get financed at all.

 

Especially when hardly anyone outside of the dealer financial arms of lenders actually use them, too easy to get good financing from a CU or whatever beforehand on a Classic score.




        
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Anonymous
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Re: 900 Club...

Equifax loves me too.  It's consistently 35 points higher than Experian, with identical, matched credit reports.

Message 24 of 43
Anonymous
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Re: 900 Club...

@Trudy Congratulations!!! Truly a superb achievement, congratulations indeed.
Message 25 of 43
Trudy
Valued Contributor

Re: 900 Club...


@Anonymous wrote:
@TrudyCongratulations!!! Truly a superb achievement, congratulations indeed.

Thanks BM7!

FICO - 8: 05/05/23
Message 26 of 43
Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: 900 Club...

Looking for updates.

Anyone out there know of a profile that received the elusive Fico BCE or Auto 900 hattrick across all three CBs on Fico 8 or Fico 9? Below is a grid for Fico 8 and Fico 9 BCE and Auto versions. Any version having a reported 900 is marked "Yes".

 

VersionEQTUEX
BCE 8NoYesYes
BCE 9NoNoNo
Auto 8NoYesNo
Auto 9YesYesNo
Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
Message 27 of 43
Trudy
Valued Contributor

Re: 900 Club...


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

Looking for updates.

Anyone out there know of a profile that received the elusive Fico BCE or Auto 900 hattrick across all three CBs on Fico 8 or Fico 9?


Nope.  Closest I've gotten is below.  Interesting the 1st post on this page was yours noting that it's harder to get BC9 above 880.  That's seems definitely true.

 

Had a large expense late August (paid off) and new account 11/2020.  Haven't reached these numbers again yet.

 

BC9.pngAU9.pngBC8.png

 

AU8.png 

 

 

Paid off auto loan in late October that hurt caused point loss on Auto scores.  

FICO - 8: 05/05/23
Message 28 of 43
Anonymous
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Re: 900 Club...

Best I've done is for BCE8 is 900 EX, 898 TU and 883 EQ. 

 

TT, do your BCE9 scores run significantly lower than your BCE8s?  Mine do.  I'm 41, 34 and 22 points lower on my 9s.

 

Any ideas what factors BCE is more sensitive to?  I think you're file is a good bit more aged than mine.  My 883 on EQ is with 7 years 5 months AAoA; I have a feeling you're a good bit above that.  My AoYRA at the time of that score was 3 years 5 months; I think you may have me beat there too.  I think where I'm probably getting beat up pretty good with that score may have to do with all [7] of my open revolvers being relatively young as all were opened between 2015-2017. 

Message 29 of 43
Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: 900 Club...

@Anonymous 

Congrats on getting a Fico industry option 900 - its harder than a Classic Fico 8 or Classic Fico 9 850 hattrick - IMO.

 

Yes, my BCE Fico 9 scores run lower than the BCE Fico 8s. They were 11, 20 and 21 points lower in the 3B report - data set provided below.. It should be noted that EX BCE Fico 9 "real world score" tops out at 894 whereas the EX BCE Fico 8 counterpart goes to 900. The score differences are not as significant with the Auto versions. All Auto 8 and Auto 9 scores go to 900.  For me, EQ Auto 8 and EQ Auto 9 are nearly equal. [No auto loan open or closed on file].

 

I have never reported AZEO and typically report AZE4 to AZE6. My hypothesis has been that BCE 9 penalizes more than BCE 8 for multiple cards reporting. My cards are all rather aged. Your rather large score differences between BCE 8 and BCE 9 could potentially relate to your limited AAoRA being an important factor in BCE 9. FWIW - My YRA is dated 9/2011.

 

[Data is from a BMC - before mortgage closure, 3B report]

VersionEQTUEX
BCE 8887899900
BCE 9876879879
Auto 8887891897
Auto 9885880887

 

 

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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