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Alright, I finally understand. But of course, understanding spurs more questions:
My total credit line is roughly $20,000. My other two cards I PIF every month so they report 0.
1.) So with my AMEX, the card we have been discussing the entire time. Should I report somewhere between $200 - $1800 a month because that is the range of 1-9% utilization? Of course the day after it reports I PIF in order to not pay interest. Does that sounds right?
2.) Is it better to be lower in the range of reporting? Should I report 1% or 9% which is better for taking the FICO score to the 800s?
@Anonymous wrote:Alright, I finally understand. But of course, understanding spurs more questions:
My total credit line is roughly $20,000. My other two cards I PIF every month so they report 0.
1.) So with my AMEX, the card we have been discussing the entire time. Should I report somewhere between $200 - $1800 a month because that is the range of 1-9% utilization? Of course the day after it reports I PIF in order to not pay interest. Does that sounds right?
2.) Is it better to be lower in the range of reporting? Should I report 1% or 9% which is better for taking the FICO score to the 800s?
i'm glad you finally understand! ![]()
1) Yes, that is correct. Report between 1-9% then PIF the day after you receive your statement to avoid confusion/paying interest.
2) This varies from person to person. It's best to have your utilization between 1-9%, but the difference between reporting 2% or 5% or 7% shouldn't have a large effect on your credit score. Some people have reported finding their 'sweet spot' at a certain percentage (within the range from 1-9%) but it varies from person to person. I guess you could experiment at different amounts from month to month until you find the amount that makes your score the highest, but i think the change will be minimal. You also have to consider all the other factors that could affect your score in your 9 month 'experimentation period,' so it's certainly not an exact science.
looks like you've got the utilization method down...good luck getting those scores up!
-waystinthyme
P.S. Just to make sure, your total credit line for your AMEX is 20,000...correct? you want your utilization on the card you report to be between 1-9% and the others to report $0 balances.
"P.S. Just to make sure, your total credit line for your AMEX is 20,000...correct? you want your utilization on the card you report to be between 1-9% and the others to report $0 balances."
No, my credit line on my Amex is $3700, with the other two cards my total credit line is $20,000. So, the utilization should be 1-9% of the credit limit per each particular card in order to properly use the low utlization method?
"You also have to consider all the other factors that could affect your score in your 9 month 'experimentation period,' so it's certainly not an exact science."
I am not familiar with what you mran by the 9 month experimentation period, please elaborate.
@Anonymous wrote:"P.S. Just to make sure, your total credit line for your AMEX is 20,000...correct? you want your utilization on the card you report to be between 1-9% and the others to report $0 balances."
No, my credit line on my Amex is $3700, with the other two cards my total credit line is $20,000. So, the utilization should be 1-9% of the credit limit per each particular card in order to properly use the low utlization method?
"You also have to consider all the other factors that could affect your score in your 9 month 'experimentation period,' so it's certainly not an exact science."
I am not familiar with what you mran by the 9 month experimentation period, please elaborate.
1) you want to be between 1-9% utilization on each card that reports (for you that would only be your amex, since your other two cards report a 0 balance) AND report a balance on less than half of your cards (if you have 3 cards, then reporting only your AMEX, as you've been doing would be preferred). in theory, if you're in between 1-9% on each card that reports, then you'll also be between 1-9% of your total CL, but reporting a HIGH balance on one card (i.e. 49% utilization on your AMEX) even if you are within the 1-9% reporting range on your total CL could lower your score.
This means you would use the CL on your AMEX for the utilization method, since it the only card that reports a balance. Reporting $1,800 on your Amex would not be good, because it would bring your utilization on that card to 1800/3700 = 49%, instead you want to report between 1-9% on each card that reports a balance, which for your AMEX would be bewtween $37 (1% of $3,700) and $333 (9% of $3,700) reporting each month.
2) In your previous post you asked, within the 1-9% utilization range, what would the optimum utilzation percentage number be to have reporting each month. (i.e. would it be better to report 2% as opposed to 5% or 7%). my answer, was that this varies from person to person, and the effect on your credit score is usually minimal (as long as you are in that 1-9% range). i also stated that some members have found their 'sweet spot' or in other words the exact percentage where their score is the highest, but that this number varies from person to person. i then stated, that if you would like to find your exact percentage you would have to experiment for a couple of months to see when your score is the highest. this 'experimentation period' would last 9 months (the first month you'd report 1%, 2nd month 2%, 3rd month 3% and so on up until 9%), check your scores each month and see which month and corresponding utilization percentage gave you the highest score. in my opinion, the change once you're in the 1-9% range will be minimal, but there may be some variance there.
that's where my comment, "You also have to consider all the other factors that could affect your score in your 9 month 'experimentation period,' so it's certainly not an exact science." came up, because during that 9 month period there could be a variety of factors (auto loan, mortage, inquiries etc.) that could affect your score--therefore, you may not be able to contribute an increase or decrease solely to the change in your utilization period, it may also have to do with other factors.
in my opinion, this isn't worth the time or effort to do, but some members have done it to try to determine exactly what % utilization (within the 1-9% range) yields the highest score for them.
-waystinthyme
"This means you would use the CL on your AMEX for the utilization method, since it the only card that reports a balance. Reporting $1,800 on your Amex would not be good, because it would bring your utilization on that card to 1800/3700 = 49%, instead you want to report between 1-9% on each card that reports a balance, which for your AMEX would be bewtween $37 (1% of $3,700) and $333 (9% of $3,700) reporting each month."
This makes perfect sense, the orginal reason for my inquiries was that I realized my score dropped substantially because I reported $1800 one month on my AMEX. It is my business card and the work reimburses all of my expenses, but they can get high. I just need to pay the card down to say $40 every month before it reports. Then pay it off on the first day of the new statement to avoid interest. Instead of trying a 9 month experiment I will just report $40 every month.
@Anonymous wrote:"This means you would use the CL on your AMEX for the utilization method, since it the only card that reports a balance. Reporting $1,800 on your Amex would not be good, because it would bring your utilization on that card to 1800/3700 = 49%, instead you want to report between 1-9% on each card that reports a balance, which for your AMEX would be bewtween $37 (1% of $3,700) and $333 (9% of $3,700) reporting each month."
This makes perfect sense, the orginal reason for my inquiries was that I realized my score dropped substantially because I reported $1800 one month on my AMEX. It is my business card and the work reimburses all of my expenses, but they can get high. I just need to pay the card down to say $40 every month before it reports. Then pay it off on the first day of the new statement to avoid interest. Instead of trying a 9 month experiment I will just report $40 every month.
sounds good...glad i could help.
-waystinthyme