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Credit Limits and improving scores.

So, I suppose my situation is a bit different than most, although I'm sure the overall 'mechanics' are the same.  Just wondering if anyone has any advice, based upon my situation, that might be able to help me increase my limits, to ease the burden of keeping up with (essentially) weekly (or more) payments...

I've been a business owner since i was 19.  In fact, I've never had a 'real job' (in my adult life).  I've started, from scratch, multiple different businesses, some that were fairly successful, some that were not.  I had no financial backing, from the start.  In fact, I started my first company with $42, in my garage.

 

The long story short, is that, over the years, I've taken a ding or two on my report, and because of that, I got into the habit of just paying for things with cash, when I needed them.  That's good, since I managing working debt has never been a big problem for me.  When I needed something, I simply purchased it.

 

Over the past 2-ish years, I've decided to focus on building (or re-building) my credit.  I took out a car loan (started at $35k, paid down in 1 year to $20k @ 11% interest), although I could have purchased it with cash.  I applied for (and was accepted) for a Chase Freedom card (1.5% cash back) with a $5,500.00 limit.  I also took out a secured card with Capital One ($3,300 secured), as well as a Synchrony Bank store card (Amazon Prime Store card) with a $6,000.00 limit.  I've had them all 2 (or very close) years, never missed a payment, never been late.  Generally, they are all paid to a zero balance at the close of the statement, monthly.

 

Despite that, I can never seem to get my score above 700 (it fluctuates between 635-690, with Equifax generally being the highest, and Experian being the lowest).

 

The frustrating part is that currently (in an effort to maximize the cash-back) I typically spend about $15k-20k per MONTH on the Chase card (some months as high as $35k).  Which means I'm currently paying it off AT LEAST once a week (or more).  Luckily, they credit my balance the next business day, whenever I make a payment.  I suppose it works, but it would be REALLY nice to not have to be paying it off so frequently, not to mention, that it would be nice to have a card with better benefits (travel, etc).  I've applied for a few over the past 6 months, and have been denied each time.  I'm hesitant to apply for more, because of the number of inquiries.

 

I've got a Judgement for $260k on my personal credit, due to a disagreement with a client, from about 2011, as well as an old tax lien from 2010.  The interesting thing is that those items ONLY show on my Experian report (they aren't on my Transunion or Equifax reports), and yet, all of the reports are fairly close in score, so I don't think they're affecting me all that much (score-wise).

 

Any suggestions for what I might do to continue to improve my overall score, and qualify for cards with better benefits?

 

I have business trade-lines with amounts (available, although not used) ranging from $15k-30k that I can use, but obviously those don't garner me any benefits, other than the convenience of not having to pay so frequently (although they cost me interest, obviously).

 

There are more details, but I'll wait and see if anyone asks for more info to provide advice (since this is pretty long already lol).

 

-B

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Anonymous
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Re: Credit Limits and improving scores.

With a judgement and a tax lien your score got hit hard.   I would work on fixing these.   . A small judgment yes but $260 K worth.  With that big an amount I would be concerned they get a Writ of Execution.  I have done to that people for $5k all day long. I would try to work something out in writing for both.  If you get payment plan with IRS, I heard under certain conditions they will remove the lien. ASK your CPA. My next suggestion is seperate your business from yourself with an LLC, C Corp or LLP.  and get get business credit cards for the business that don't report personally. I have owned over the years many businesses and gotten many judgments and been sued before for some bizare things including the color of our store  building(some one did not lke it) . I would never carry a business under my own name. Once you seperate the person from the biz and work onthe two big items your scores will jump of the charts.  Owning your own firm can be fun. I have done that for 40 years and never looked back. Good Luck. 

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Anonymous
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Re: Credit Limits and improving scores.

Any thoughts on why:

 

Transunion (which doesn't show the lien or Judgement) is 650ish, while my Experian (which shows both of them) is 640ish?

Equifax is identical to TU, and shows the highest @ 695ish...

Strange to me.  You would think, if those two items (despite their age) are so problematic, that there would be a much larger disparity between the scores...

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Anonymous
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On a side note,

 

Because I live in texas, my lack of incorporation is EXACTLY what is protecting me from a writ (believe it or not).  In Texas, a large majority of personal property is considered 'exempt' from collection under a writ.  Not everything, but a lot of it.  Enough that collecting on a writ against an individual in Texas (who doesn't have lavish things like expensive jewlery, multiple luxury cars, etc) isn't generally worth it.  I don't have any of these, and because I'm an individual, taking the time and effort to file and execute on a writ simply isn't worth their time.

In fact, when I was sued, it was my S CORP that was sued in the first place!  Essentially, the plaintiff buried me in legal fees (through the filing and arguing of countless motions, in an effort to jack up my legal bills) until I couldn't afford to fight them anymore (or wasn't willing to continue paying.  Once they hit that point, they not only filed for summary (default) judgment, but filed a motion to include me personally as a defendant.  Hence the huge ding on my personal report.  This all happened (coming up on) a decade ago... so eventually (if they don't renew it) the Judgment will fall off.  Long story short, they aren't the kind of people who would be interested in discussing a resolution.  They'd be more likely to ask me for DOUBLE the amount of the judgement, then go about looking for ways to make my life hell.  Best let sleeping dogs lie sometimes.

EDIT: they also (in the summary judgement) asked for treble damages, and since it was in my absence, they got it.

 

-B

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SouthJamaica
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Re: Credit Limits and improving scores.


@Anonymous wrote:

So, I suppose my situation is a bit different than most, although I'm sure the overall 'mechanics' are the same.  Just wondering if anyone has any advice, based upon my situation, that might be able to help me increase my limits, to ease the burden of keeping up with (essentially) weekly (or more) payments...

I've been a business owner since i was 19.  In fact, I've never had a 'real job' (in my adult life).  I've started, from scratch, multiple different businesses, some that were fairly successful, some that were not.  I had no financial backing, from the start.  In fact, I started my first company with $42, in my garage.

 

The long story short, is that, over the years, I've taken a ding or two on my report, and because of that, I got into the habit of just paying for things with cash, when I needed them.  That's good, since I managing working debt has never been a big problem for me.  When I needed something, I simply purchased it.

 

@Over the past 2-ish years, I've decided to focus on building (or re-building) my credit.  I took out a car loan (started at $35k, paid down in 1 year to $20k @ 11% interest), although I could have purchased it with cash.  I applied for (and was accepted) for a Chase Freedom card (1.5% cash back) with a $5,500.00 limit.  I also took out a secured card with Capital One ($3,300 secured), as well as a Synchrony Bank store card (Amazon Prime Store card) with a $6,000.00 limit.  I've had them all 2 (or very close) years, never missed a payment, never been late.  Generally, they are all paid to a zero balance at the close of the statement, monthly.

 

Despite that, I can never seem to get my score above 700 (it fluctuates between 635-690, with Equifax generally being the highest, and Experian being the lowest).

 

The frustrating part is that currently (in an effort to maximize the cash-back) I typically spend about $15k-20k per MONTH on the Chase card (some months as high as $35k).  Which means I'm currently paying it off AT LEAST once a week (or more).  Luckily, they credit my balance the next business day, whenever I make a payment.  I suppose it works, but it would be REALLY nice to not have to be paying it off so frequently, not to mention, that it would be nice to have a card with better benefits (travel, etc).  I've applied for a few over the past 6 months, and have been denied each time.  I'm hesitant to apply for more, because of the number of inquiries.

 

I've got a Judgement for $260k on my personal credit, due to a disagreement with a client, from about 2011, as well as an old tax lien from 2010.  The interesting thing is that those items ONLY show on my Experian report (they aren't on my Transunion or Equifax reports), and yet, all of the reports are fairly close in score, so I don't think they're affecting me all that much (score-wise).

 

Any suggestions for what I might do to continue to improve my overall score, and qualify for cards with better benefits?

 

I have business trade-lines with amounts (available, although not used) ranging from $15k-30k that I can use, but obviously those don't garner me any benefits, other than the convenience of not having to pay so frequently (although they cost me interest, obviously).

 

There are more details, but I'll wait and see if anyone asks for more info to provide advice (since this is pretty long already lol).

 

-B


Easy.

 

1. Pay the car loan down to 3000, then leave it alone, paying tiny amounts but not zeroing it out.

 

2. Maintain the 3 credit cards this way: have 2 of them report a zero balance, let the other one report a balance of 10% or less.


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