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FICO 5 VS 8 Help understanding

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FICO 5 VS 8 Help understanding

Can anyone help me understand..... 

I started using My Fico recently on 04.06.16, my FICO 8 scores from my 3B report were:

Equifax 656 now it's 676

Transunion 658 now it's 671

Experian 673 now it's 686

Which I have been getting alerts it's going up so thats great..

My Fico 5 score via Equifax was 586, I pulled it again on 04.18.16 and it was 579

My Fico 4 via Transunion was 609 when pulled again was 605

& My Fico 2 via Experian was 610 now 599..

I don't understand how my FICO 8 scores are going up however my older version's are going down?? Thoese are the one's I need to go up.... Sooo frusturated Smiley Sad I was soo close to being able to qualify and now I feel like I'm being pushed the opposite direction.

Any help/suggestions/info is appreciated very much..

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Revelate
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Re: FICO 5 VS 8 Help understanding

Honestly I'd need to look at a before and after to be able to really pull anything meaningful out of it.

 

What actions have you taken so far?  The path to optimizing both FICO 8 and the mortgage scores are identical, with the exception that installment utilization is only a factor on the Experian Risk Model v2 score on the mortgage trifecta, the other two flatly ignore it.

 




        
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Anonymous
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Re: FICO 5 VS 8 Help understanding

So the only thing I have done that I can think would have decreased is.... My husband has a credit card through capital one that he has had for just under 2 years and our lender thought it would be benifical for me to be added as a authorized user to his card however this brought my utilization from under 10% to about 25% so I got all his great payment history for that account (he has never been late on a payment, or I should say I have not because I pay the bills) however it now looks like I have more debt. Should I not have done that ane maybe delete myself as a authorized user?

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Revelate
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Re: FICO 5 VS 8 Help understanding


@Anonymous wrote:

So the only thing I have done that I can think would have decreased is.... My husband has a credit card through capital one that he has had for just under 2 years and our lender thought it would be benifical for me to be added as a authorized user to his card however this brought my utilization from under 10% to about 25% so I got all his great payment history for that account (he has never been late on a payment, or I should say I have not because I pay the bills) however it now looks like I have more debt. Should I not have done that ane maybe delete myself as a authorized user?


Probably not from the sounds of it; what was your Average Age of Accounts before the AU and did you have at least call it 3 tradelines on the report?

 

What I would suggest is this: post as much of your report data as you can:

 

Credit cards: open date, current balance, credit limit

 

Installment loans: open date, current balance, original balance

 

Negatives: what type, when occurred, current status if any.

 

We can give you some advice based on that information on optimizing your score in the short-term.  My experience and the experience of many others anecdotally on this forum is that we can give you far better advice than even some of the best LO's typically in terms of FICO maximization.

 




        
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Anonymous
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Re: FICO 5 VS 8 Help understanding

I have a cap one that I am auth user on that has 3k with a 9k limit opened July 2014

I have a cap one has $40.00 with a 2k limit opened 07/07 with missed payments March and April 2015 (I just came across a email and letter template asking for Goodwill removal)

Capital One with $500.00 and has a 5k limit opened 05/06 one late pay in 2013

and Capital one with a 0 balance 700.00 limit. I have missed paments on this from last yr Feb to Aug due to having a child and being out of work and having to have emergency surgery right after giving birth things got crazy I did just write a Goodwill letter on this also because this I know is the one killing me.  Ive had this card since 2004.

CLOSED ACCTS

CITI

CHASE with a late pay from FEB to Aug 2015

Old Navy with a late pay Dec/Jan 2014/2015

 

I have a loan for my car through Marine Credit Union that I have direct taken from my act never a late pay and I have that acct since Aug of 2015.

 

Thats me!

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Anonymous
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Re: FICO 5 VS 8 Help understanding

I have a feeling I know the answer & that's time for the negatives to go away but that's 7 years...... I know I hit a bump and screwed up and now I'm definitely paying for it Smiley Sad I had just had a baby and had to have emergency surgery about 2 weeks after giving birth. Definitely a hard lesson learned.
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Revelate
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Re: FICO 5 VS 8 Help understanding


@Anonymous wrote:
I have a feeling I know the answer & that's time for the negatives to go away but that's 7 years...... I know I hit a bump and screwed up and now I'm definitely paying for it Smiley Sad I had just had a baby and had to have emergency surgery about 2 weeks after giving birth. Definitely a hard lesson learned.

Pretty much; with a bunch of recent negatives unless you can goodwill them off you're a bit stuck unfortunately.  If you pay off one of the two credit cards with balances you may gain a few points.

 




        
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Anonymous
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Re: FICO 5 VS 8 Help understanding

I just had 3 collections removed & paid $800 off on one of the cards hoping to see a handful of points but with my luck not holding my breath.
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Anonymous
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Re: FICO 5 VS 8 Help understanding

So my FICO alerted me today that I paid a credit card off I used my Cap 1 card and charged $122 over the month and paid it off over a week before it was due. My credit scored dropped -16 points... How is this? Because the FICO 8 score dropped does that mean the others did also? This is so frusturating.

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Revelate
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Re: FICO 5 VS 8 Help understanding


@Anonymous wrote:

So my FICO alerted me today that I paid a credit card off I used my Cap 1 card and charged $122 over the month and paid it off over a week before it was due. My credit scored dropped -16 points... How is this? Because the FICO 8 score dropped does that mean the others did also? This is so frusturating.


Not necessarily; question, how did you get the 3 collections removed?  If it was via the dispute process all bets are off on score as it can up and discount entire tradelines from the algorithm.  Basically if you dispute, just let them work through the process.

 

When there are a bunch of changes all in a short time period it's difficult to point at any one thing (even with me and my obscene familiarity with my reports), and it is unlikely to have been the paying off off the CC's (assuming you have at least one still reporting a balance which I'm pretty sure you do from your earlier post) was a negative: something else changed and the resultant score simply was triggered by the alert.




        
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