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How close are your 3 scores?

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masscredit
Senior Contributor

How close are your 3 scores?

I just updated my EX score after 3 IIB accounts were deleted then found that all 3 of my 08 scores are almost the same -

 

EQ08 - 721 |TU08 - 722 | EX08 - 722

 

Each report has 3 liens and a BK on them. EQ has 1 inquiry, TU has 3 and EX has 1.

 

 

My scores used to be spread out when I started watching them.  Now they are all very tight. 

EQ - 698 / TU - 672 / EX - 686

Capital One Savor - $16000 / Capital One Venture - $13000 / Travel Advantage Visa - $11500 / TD Cash Card - $7500 / Bread Rewards AMEX - $6950 / Apple Card - $6500 / TD Double Up - $5500 / Mercury - $5000 / Ally Master Card - $4300 / DCU Visa - $3000 / Capital One QuickSilver - $500
$79,750
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Anonymous
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Re: How close are your 3 scores?

When I pulled my 3B last July, my scores were all within one point of each other, just like yours.  I still monitor my FICO 8 across all three bureaus, but I do so using the free scores supplied by various credit cards.  So I haven't seen all three bureas pulled on the same day for a while.

 

Some people have carefully checked to make sure that their bureaus have exactly the same data, and yet their FICO 8 will be differing by 20 points or more.  This owes to each bureau having a slightly different custom-designed version of FICO 8 (assuming a person really does have exactly identical data).

 

My question is, what is it about some profiles that make their scores sensitive to this bureau-specific difference, while you and me have virtually identical scores?

 

It's not clean vs. dirty, since you have a BK and 3 liens and I have no derogs of any kind -- and yet we are in the "no difference" camp.

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Anonymous
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Re: How close are your 3 scores?

As of today. And my files are an exact match.

 

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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: How close are your 3 scores?


@Anonymous wrote:

When I pulled my 3B last July, my scores were all within one point of each other, just like yours.  I still monitor my FICO 8 across all three bureaus, but I do so using the free scores supplied by various credit cards.  So I haven't seen all three bureas pulled on the same day for a while.

 

Some people have carefully checked to make sure that their bureaus have exactly the same data, and yet their FICO 8 will be differing by 20 points or more.  This owes to each bureau having a slightly different custom-designed version of FICO 8 (assuming a person really does have exactly identical data).

 

My question is, what is it about some profiles that make their scores sensitive to this bureau-specific difference, while you and me have virtually identical scores?

 

It's not clean vs. dirty, since you have a BK and 3 liens and I have no derogs of any kind -- and yet we are in the "no difference" camp.


CGID, 

 

Best I can tell is once certain factors report sub optimally, CRA specific customization may come into play. It may also be that the way an account is tagged gets interpreted differently by a CRA's version of the Fico model [such as a store card or charge card]. When an account that may be classified differently is not used (or does not report a balance) => tighter spread.

 

@For example, My Fico 08 Enhanced scores have a tighter spread when I only report balances on 3 of 6 cards with AG UT under 2%. When I reported balances on 6 of 6 cards @ 4% AG UT [including my NPSL AMEX charge card], spread among Fico 08 Bankcard scores  jumped to 21 points from 14. AMEX reports the charge card as "open" with 30 day terms. EQ lists type of account as "open" on their report yet, includes the AMEX in the revolver account category on my report instead of the "other account" category. Interestingly, EQ specifically lists AMEX with 30 day terms as an example of an "other account" in their definition.

 

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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masscredit
Senior Contributor

Re: How close are your 3 scores?

One thing that I didn't mention is I have 3 out of 10 cards reporting. 

 

$1395/$15K

$764/$10.500

$211//$6500

 

total utilization is rounded up to 3%

 

 

EQ - 698 / TU - 672 / EX - 686

Capital One Savor - $16000 / Capital One Venture - $13000 / Travel Advantage Visa - $11500 / TD Cash Card - $7500 / Bread Rewards AMEX - $6950 / Apple Card - $6500 / TD Double Up - $5500 / Mercury - $5000 / Ally Master Card - $4300 / DCU Visa - $3000 / Capital One QuickSilver - $500
$79,750
DCU Auto Loan
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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: How close are your 3 scores?

Current scores in siggy, closer than they should be arguably seeing as how TU has a 30 from 6 months ago.

 

EQ/EX are identical other than EX's reporting an extra month on everything, not sure that actually affects FICO calculation though.




        
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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: How close are your 3 scores?

TU = 777 with 1 INQ in the last 12 months

EQ = 771 with 5 INQ in the last 12 months

EX = 760 with 10 INQ in the last 12 months

 

22 of 25 cards reporting balances, highest is 39% individual utilization, overall just under 10% utilization.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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masscredit
Senior Contributor

Re: How close are your 3 scores?


@NRB525 wrote:

TU = 777 with 1 INQ in the last 12 months

EQ = 771 with 5 INQ in the last 12 months

EX = 760 with 10 INQ in the last 12 months

 

22 of 25 cards reporting balances, highest is 39% individual utilization, overall just under 10% utilization.


It's nice that your able to fully use that many cards and still have great scores. What do you think they would be if you just had 1-2 reporting? 

EQ - 698 / TU - 672 / EX - 686

Capital One Savor - $16000 / Capital One Venture - $13000 / Travel Advantage Visa - $11500 / TD Cash Card - $7500 / Bread Rewards AMEX - $6950 / Apple Card - $6500 / TD Double Up - $5500 / Mercury - $5000 / Ally Master Card - $4300 / DCU Visa - $3000 / Capital One QuickSilver - $500
$79,750
DCU Auto Loan
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