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How is this for a 'raise FICO' plan?

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How is this for a 'raise FICO' plan?

So I am rebuilding credit, I am AU on a couple cards and have a couple new of my own.

I want to add in a mix, I thought I'd do the following (I know it will cost me some interest, not so worried).

Tale a Cash Advance on my CC (I know, I know)
Take out a 1 year $1k Personal Secured Loan with the $1k as the Collateral.
Make large or semi-monthyl payments so I pay the loan off in 6 months.
Make small-ish payments on the $1k CC, maybe $100 per month.
When secured account released, pay off the balance on the CC.

I know, I'll pay bank interest on 1/2 a year on $1k ($50?) and Cash Advance Interest on a $1000 on CC for 6 months ($180) but for a $200 investment I get;

A paid Personal Loan
A cc with 6 months of payments AND then PIF.

Then I apply for CLI on the CC with my payment history AND with a new paid loan added to my mix.
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Re: How is this for a 'raise FICO' plan?



nyccc2 wrote:
So I am rebuilding credit, I am AU on a couple cards and have a couple new of my own.

I want to add in a mix, I thought I'd do the following (I know it will cost me some interest, not so worried).

Tale a Cash Advance on my CC (I know, I know)
Take out a 1 year $1k Personal Secured Loan with the $1k as the Collateral.
Make large or semi-monthyl payments so I pay the loan off in 6 months.
Make small-ish payments on the $1k CC, maybe $100 per month.
When secured account released, pay off the balance on the CC.

I know, I'll pay bank interest on 1/2 a year on $1k ($50?) and Cash Advance Interest on a $1000 on CC for 6 months ($180) but for a $200 investment I get;

A paid Personal Loan
A cc with 6 months of payments AND then PIF.

Then I apply for CLI on the CC with my payment history AND with a new paid loan added to my mix.

I don't think it's a good idea.  Yes, you will get additional points for "credit mix," but only for six months.  (When an installment loan is paid off and closed, it stops counting towards "mix.")  What good does that really do?
 
In the meantime, you'll have a $1K balance on a CC that wasn't there before.  This will probably lower your score more than the points for "mix" will help it.  Installment loans don't count for nearly as much in the scoring algorithm as revolving accounts do.
 
Also, FICO does not reward you extra for paying off an installment loan early, so you won't be squeezing out any points that way.
 
You'll also have a new account, which will ding you, and an inquiry, which will also ding you.
 
In my opinion, this plan will probably do more harm than good in the short run.  In the long run, the only benefit you'll get is an additional account to count towards average age.
 
Not a good trade off, IMO.
 
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RobertEG
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Re: How is this for a 'raise FICO' plan?

It does not make a lot of sense to me.  Obtaining an installment loan will temporarily improve your credit mix, but if you pay it off in 6 months, it will be gone from credit mix almost as sonn as it is added.  In the interim, you have been hit for an inq to get the loan, which will stay with  you for a yeasr.  A new account also reduce your avg length of credit.  And when it is all over, you will be at the same place you are now on both install and revolv %util, with no active installment loan, and the residue of the inq. Not to mention the increased interest on both you revolv and installment accounts over tht period.  I see a lose-lose here.
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Anonymous
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Re: How is this for a 'raise FICO' plan?

Man I love this site! Thanks to both of you, I had no idea the mix only helped for the term of the loan. So paying off an installment loan in the past means nothing?

Alright, I'll save my dings for new cards and credit-lines to maximize my utilization and % of cards w/wo balances.

Thanks again!
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nyccc2 wrote:
Man I love this site! Thanks to both of you, I had no idea the mix only helped for the term of the loan. So paying off an installment loan in the past means nothing?


It does mean something.  It counts towards payment history even after it's closed, and it continues to contribute to average age for as long as it's on your reports, but it only counts for mix while it's open.
 
Happy to help.
 
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RobertEG
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Re: How is this for a 'raise FICO' plan?

I would not conclude that paying off an installment loan "means nothing."  Sure, it means little in subsequent FICO score computations, but future lenders may look favorably at you having both obtained and paid off a prior loan. Lenders do not always look at just your FICO when making lending/credit decisions.  However, strictly for FICO purposes, it will probably hurt much more than it willl help.


Message Edited by RobertEG on 03-13-2008 09:29 PM
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