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How long should I wait to buy TU FICO?

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How long should I wait to buy TU FICO?

I'm AU on a 20K CL Discover, which until recently was carrying a 8K balance. Now it's carrying a balance of approx $200.00.

TU is reporting the new balance. I'm wondering how long I should wait to buy new TU FICO score.

I should note that FAKO hasn't changed.. which while not important, seems a bit odd.

Thanks in advance!
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Anonymous
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Re: How long should I wait to buy TU FICO?



mjgray wrote:
I'm AU on a 20K CL Discover, which until recently was carrying a 8K balance. Now it's carrying a balance of approx $200.00.

TU is reporting the new balance. I'm wondering how long I should wait to buy new TU FICO score.

I should note that FAKO hasn't changed.. which while not important, seems a bit odd.

Thanks in advance!

If the balance is on the TU report, FICO will see it immediately.  There's no lag time between when an item appears on a report and when it affects your score.

 
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Anonymous
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Re: How long should I wait to buy TU FICO?

Thanks Cheddar!

I've been repairing like mad, but I still have so much to learn about scoring. I recently saw someone mention that their WaMu PFICO scores were a month behind, and wondered if maybe TU's FAKO scores might be as well. I guess that's a stretch though. I'm sure they'd update those with the report.

Perhaps I won't see a score increase for that big balance reduction, but it'll be nice to get updated FICOs now that my recent new accounts have begun reporting.
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haulingthescoreup
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Re: How long should I wait to buy TU FICO?

Just as a general FYI for anyone reading, your scores don't really exist until someone requests them. Whatever is on that particular CRA at that very moment --that's what creates that score. Your reports are fluid, continually changing as creditors update, and as the CRA's finally put down the doughnut and enter the changes. As Noah_Bodie puts it, the reports are a movie, and your scores are a snapshot of one moment in time of that movie.

If you see an account change on your TrueCredit or other score monitoring reports, or one pulled directly from EQ or the other CRA's, that same change will show when you pull your FICO, and IF that change is something that would affect your score, you will see a new score.

Since the FAKO's follow a different, unknown formula than FICO's formulas, sometimes they might change when FICO would not, and vice versa. That's why so many of us use credit monitoring services to see report changes, and we use the knowledge we've picked up here to predict when something on our reports is significant enough to make it worthwhile to pay for a new FICO score. And let me be the first to say that, as much as I've learned, I've had an awful lot of D'oh! moments when I pulled a score for nothing. Smiley Tongue
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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Anonymous
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Re: How long should I wait to buy TU FICO?


@haulingthescoreup wrote:
Since the FAKO's follow a different, unknown formula than FICO's formulas, sometimes they might change when FICO would not, and vice versa.


Wow, you weren't kidding. FICO is 59 pts higher than TrueCredit's FAKO.

Thanks for all of the info, HTSU!
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RobertEG
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Re: How long should I wait to buy TU FICO?

I agree.  The way the system is structured, once an entry is made into your CR at any CRA, then credit score is instantaneously updated when you buy a new score and the new report is then run through the scoring algorithm.  Credit scores are not independlty generated by FairIsaac, they just ship their product to the CRAs, who then use the algortihm to produce your score from  your current CR.  No delay, once entered.  The score delay results only from a CRA delay in entering the data into your CR,


Message Edited by RobertEG on 04-23-2008 12:12 AM
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MidnightVoice
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Re: How long should I wait to buy TU FICO?

Just remember that different CRAs take different times to actually add stuff to your report.  Usually TU first, EQ next and EX eventually
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haulingthescoreup
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Re: How long should I wait to buy TU FICO?


@MidnightVoice wrote:
Just remember that different CRAs take different times to actually add stuff to your report.  Usually TU first, EQ next and EX eventually


That's because EX hates you! Smiley Very Happy

For me, it's EX first, TU about 4 days later, and then EQ wanders in several days after that. Unless TU is in one of its funks, and then EQ and TU swap.

I still don't get the delays. Surely this is all electronic? Bob Cratchit is not scratching away with his quill pen, laboriously entering my $6 balance! Smiley Tongue
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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Anonymous
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Re: How long should I wait to buy TU FICO?

I was told by a FIA CSR that they don't report to the credit bureaus in the sense that their system says, okay its the 12th, lets data dump our info on this guy into TU.....she claims that EX/EQ/TU randomly pull my balance/history so there is no way of predicting when that month they will check on an account. If this is the case, it would explain why there is a difference in reporting between bureaus over the month (maybe the bureaus are inquiring at different times)??
 
Or I could have had a completely incompetent CSR Smiley Wink
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haulingthescoreup
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Re: How long should I wait to buy TU FICO?


@Anonymous wrote:
I was told by a FIA CSR that they don't report to the credit bureaus in the sense that their system says, okay its the 12th, lets data dump our info on this guy into TU.....she claims that EX/EQ/TU randomly pull my balance/history so there is no way of predicting when that month they will check on an account. If this is the case, it would explain why there is a difference in reporting between bureaus over the month (maybe the bureaus are inquiring at different times)??
Or I could have had a completely incompetent CSR Smiley Wink



I was talking myself into believing this when I realized that even though they don't all post on the same day, they do follow a predictable pattern most of the time. I suppose that maybe all three somehow know when to pull my reports, but I don't see how they would, and especially how EX would know. Several of my account statement dates wander around --the 22nd, then the 24th, then the 21st, and so on, but EX pretty much always shows them the very next day.

I am convinced that there are a large number of CSR's who would sooner pump out septic tanks for a living than say out loud, "Gee, I just don't know!" Smiley Very Happy
* Credit is a wonderful servant, but a terrible master. * Who's the boss --you or your credit?
FICO's: EQ 781 - TU 793 - EX 779 (from PSECU) - Done credit hunting; having fun with credit gardening. - EQ 590 on 5/14/2007
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