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Goal810
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Interpreting my Score

Hi all,

 

I just purchased my credit score after a year and a half and was wondering if anyone can help me interpret the commentary they included. I noticed it is much more vague than the 2 credit reports I have purchased in the past and does not seem particularly helpful. My goal is for a score over 800. I had an account on here but Fico wouldn't accept my correct username and password so I had to make a new account. My score is 717 and it says:

 

Key Factors Affecting Your Score

 

The credit line on revolving accounts

The percentage of department store accounts or charge cards to all of the accounts in your credit file

The total amount of outstanding balance on credit accounts

The length of time since credit cards have been opened in your credit file

 

My last credit card was opened 9 months ago, so I'm assuming they mean this is too recent ? I also don't know what they mean by "the credit line on revolving accounts." My credit limit is > $19,000 and I never have a balance of much more than $1000 so this seems okay.  I have 5 credit cards and 13 total accounts, so the percentage is 38% for their 2nd comment. Not sure how I can change this or what I am supposed to have... For the total amount of outstanding balance on credit accounts I have a lot of student loans and a mortgage and will work to pay these off.

 

Would appreciate any advice anyone can give. Happy holiday season everyone!

 

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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Interpreting my Score


@Goal810 wrote:

Hi all,

 

I just purchased my credit score after a year and a half and was wondering if anyone can help me interpret the commentary they included. I noticed it is much more vague than the 2 credit reports I have purchased in the past and does not seem particularly helpful. My goal is for a score over 800. I had an account on here but Fico wouldn't accept my correct username and password so I had to make a new account. My score is 717 and it says:

 

Key Factors Affecting Your Score

 

The credit line on revolving accounts

The percentage of department store accounts or charge cards to all of the accounts in your credit file

The total amount of outstanding balance on credit accounts

The length of time since credit cards have been opened in your credit file

 

My last credit card was opened 9 months ago, so I'm assuming they mean this is too recent ? I also don't know what they mean by "the credit line on revolving accounts." My credit limit is > $19,000 and I never have a balance of much more than $1000 so this seems okay.  I have 5 credit cards and 13 total accounts, so the percentage is 38% for their 2nd comment. Not sure how I can change this or what I am supposed to have... For the total amount of outstanding balance on credit accounts I have a lot of student loans and a mortgage and will work to pay these off.

 

Would appreciate any advice anyone can give. Happy holiday season everyone!

 


Hello and welcome.

 

May I ask where you got your score and report? I ask because those comments don't look like what you'd normally see on a report bought from myFICO. Unfortunately not every place you can buy a "credit score" will sell you a FICO score and those same places will often give you advice that is actually counter productive.

 

 

 

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 9/09 pulled by lender 802, EQ - 10/10-813, TU - 10/10-774

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

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Goal810
Established Member

Re: Interpreting my Score

I got it on Equifax which is where I got my previous 2 score reports. It seems that they have gotten much more vague, though, maybe in an effort to prevent people from figuring out how the score works.

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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Interpreting my Score


@Goal810 wrote:

I got it on Equifax which is where I got my previous 2 score reports. It seems that they have gotten much more vague, though, maybe in an effort to prevent people from figuring out how the score works.


Equifax has made it much more difficult to find their FICO score. Their new "Equifax Complete" product has NO FICO scores available.

 

Did you buy the Equifax "Score Watch"?

 

 

 

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 9/09 pulled by lender 802, EQ - 10/10-813, TU - 10/10-774

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

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Goal810
Established Member

Re: Interpreting my Score

It definitely says Equifax Credit Score. I purchased 1 individual score, not Score Watch. On the score report it says the credit score is an "Equifax Risk Score," which ranges between 280 and 850. So I think it is a real score.

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llecs
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Interpreting my Score


@Goal810 wrote:

It definitely says Equifax Credit Score. I purchased 1 individual score, not Score Watch. On the score report it says the credit score is an "Equifax Risk Score," which ranges between 280 and 850. So I think it is a real score.


That score isn't a FICO score and EQ created it to compete with FICO, though no lenders are interested in it.

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JoeBJay20
Established Contributor

Re: Interpreting my Score

 


@Goal810 wrote:

It definitely says Equifax Credit Score. I purchased 1 individual score, not Score Watch. On the score report it says the credit score is an "Equifax Risk Score," which ranges between 280 and 850. So I think it is a real score.


All FICO scores will explicitly say that they are indeed FICO scores.  If it doesn't say FICO score, then it's what we call a FAKO score, which is by and large meaningless, even if you bought it from one of the major CRAs.  FICO scores range between 300 and 850.

 

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Goal810
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Re: Interpreting my Score

I pulled out my old score reports from Equifax over the last couple years and they do indeed say FICO score. I think it's really cheap marketing that they advertise for their score as if there is no change from before yet it is a FAKO score and apparently the real Equifax credit score cannot be obtained from Equifax, it has to come from myFICO.

 

While this Equifax score is probably based on the same information the advice is far too vague to understand. If I purchase a score from myFICO (which I have not done before), will it contain the detailed information on factors that affect my score as my older Equifax reports did? If the credit report contains this information then it would be enough but probably I will need to buy the score to get this report.

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RobertEG
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Re: Interpreting my Score

The term “Equifax credit score” means only that it based on your credit file retained by, in this case, the credit reporting agency, Equifax. 

Only the CRAs maintain the data necessary to calculate your credit score, so they thus become the party that provides your scoring.

When you request a credit score based on your current credit file, the CRA must first determine what scoring algorithm to use.

The first company to produce and offer “credit scores” was Fair Isaac, back in the 1980’s.

Creditors began to rely upon a consumer’s payment risk analysis score, commonly referred to as your FICO score, as part of their credit granting process.  With two decades of industry use, FICO  became the only payment risk analysis available to creditors until around 2000. 

When consumers began to recognize the significance of their credit score, and were permitted to obtain credit scores,  the CRAs saw the opportunity to enter into competition with Fair Isaac, and develop and market their own scoring algorithms.  There initial effort was as joint venture by the three major CRAs to develop an independent scoring algorithm, which was marketed as a “Vantage” score.  Since the Fair Isaac scoring algorithm was, and is, a protected, proprietary trade secret, their algorithms used their own, independent view of risk analysis.  Their view of credit scoring may be superior or inferior to the FICO view.  Regardless, the fact remains, to this day, that creditors have used FICO scoring for about a quarter of a century,   So that is the payment risk analysis score that most creditors rely on, and use.  It has become, through credibility, the industry standard that most creditors rely on, and use.

Any score not based on the proprietary FICO algorithm is derogatorily referred to as a “FAKO” score.

 

OK, you submit a request for a credit score based on each CRAs database of your credit file.  Unless your submission is for a score generated by the Fair Isaac (FICO) algorithms, the CRA will most likely provide you a FAKO score.  Any score you order on the myFICO site is sanctioned to have been generated under the industry-standard FICO algorithms.  It will include the proprietary “FICO” trademark.

 

Requests for a FICO score are not handled by Fair Isaac.  They don’t have the CRA consumer data necessary to do this.  What Fair Isaac does is to license their algorithms to each CRA.  They are encrypted, so the CRA just puts their data in, and gets a FICO score.

For each score they provide using the licensed FICO algorithms, they pay a cross-licensing fee back to Fair Isaac.

Of course, if the request does not require use of the FICO algorithms, they will give you a FAKO score, and thus avoid the fee back to Father FICO.

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veracious
Established Contributor

Re: Interpreting my Score

 


@RobertEG wrote:

The term “Equifax credit score” means only that it based on your credit file retained by, in this case, the credit reporting agency, Equifax. 

Only the CRAs maintain the data necessary to calculate your credit score, so they thus become the party that provides your scoring.

When you request a credit score based on your current credit file, the CRA must first determine what scoring algorithm to use.

The first company to produce and offer “credit scores” was Fair Isaac, back in the 1980’s.

 

Requests for a FICO score are not handled by Fair Isaac.  They don’t have the CRA consumer data necessary to do this.  What Fair Isaac does is to license their algorithms to each CRA.  They are encrypted, so the CRA just puts their data in, and gets a FICO score.

For each score they provide using the licensed FICO algorithms, they pay a cross-licensing fee back to Fair Isaac.

Of course, if the request does not require use of the FICO algorithms, they will give you a FAKO score, and thus avoid the fee back to Father FICO.


 

Great post as usual, RobertEG.With all due respect ,  I had to laugh when I read  ' Father FICO '.      Didn't know you have a lighter side.

        Good one!

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