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Anonymous
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Score is dropping with AZEO

I am attempting to do AZEO to boost my Mortgage Credit Score 3 points but as I am paying the balances to 0 my FICO 8 keeps dropping. I only had a 1% utilization rate to begin with so not sure if that makes a difference but even paying the $9 balance on one card dropped my Experian FICO8 14 points and my Transunion 4 points. Does this rebound when I finall get to AZEO?

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thornback
Senior Contributor

Re: Score is dropping with AZEO

Did paying that $9 put all of your revolving balances at $0?

Personal Aphorism:"Forget What You Feel, Remember What You Deserve"
Starting FICO 8s | 09/2017: EX 641 ✦ EQ 634 ✦ TU 647
Current FICO 8s | 04/2022: EX 796 ✦ EQ 793 ✦ TU 790
Current FICO 9s | 04/2022: EX 790 ✦ EQ 788 ✦ TU 782
2022 Goal Score | 800s

My AAoA:
4.6 years not incl. AU / 4.9 years incl. AU
My AoOA: 9.2 years not incl. AU / 11.2 years incl. AU
Inquiries: EX 0/12 ✦ EQ 0/12 ✦ TU 0/12
Report Status: Clean
Garden Status:  


Without patience, we will learn less in life. We will see less. We will feel less. We will hear less. Ironically, rush and more usually mean less.
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Anonymous
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Re: Score is dropping with AZEO

No. I still have 4 other cards with a small balance. 
Visa $3 balance - $500 CL

MC $4 balance- $1750 CL

Captial One $3 balance - $750 CL

First National $75 balance- $500 CL

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thornback
Senior Contributor

Re: Score is dropping with AZEO

That shouldn't happen with multiple others reporting a balanxe unless something else besides balances changed on your reports at the same time.  Just to be sure, we are definitely looking at FICO scores and not Vantage, correct?  Have you examined your credit report line by line to ensure no other changes occurred?

 

 

Personal Aphorism:"Forget What You Feel, Remember What You Deserve"
Starting FICO 8s | 09/2017: EX 641 ✦ EQ 634 ✦ TU 647
Current FICO 8s | 04/2022: EX 796 ✦ EQ 793 ✦ TU 790
Current FICO 9s | 04/2022: EX 790 ✦ EQ 788 ✦ TU 782
2022 Goal Score | 800s

My AAoA:
4.6 years not incl. AU / 4.9 years incl. AU
My AoOA: 9.2 years not incl. AU / 11.2 years incl. AU
Inquiries: EX 0/12 ✦ EQ 0/12 ✦ TU 0/12
Report Status: Clean
Garden Status:  


Without patience, we will learn less in life. We will see less. We will feel less. We will hear less. Ironically, rush and more usually mean less.
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Anonymous
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Re: Score is dropping with AZEO

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I read on the forums somewhere that AZEO is really a simplified way to say "All zero except for less than half your accounts"?

So maybe if 4 cards account for more than half of your total available credit lines, it wouldn't work quite the same as AZEO? Again, I'm not super familiar with the concept, in case anyone with a better understanding would have more insight Smiley Happy

Either way though, it is kinda strange to see a score drop as balances are being paid off. Did any accounts on your report recently close, or did you recently get any new inquiries?

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thornback
Senior Contributor

Re: Score is dropping with AZEO


@Anonymous wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I read on the forums somewhere that AZEO is really a simplified way to say "All zero except for less than half your accounts"?

So maybe if 4 cards account for more than half of your total available credit lines, it wouldn't work quite the same as AZEO? Again, I'm not super familiar with the concept, in case anyone with a better understanding would have more insight Smiley Happy

Either way though, it is kinda strange to see a score drop as balances are being paid off. Did any accounts on your report recently close, or did you recently get any new inquiries?


It's All Zero Execpt One. 3 total cards is the easiest ratio to work with because 33% or less cards with a balance is recommended; 1 / 3 is 33% 

 

If you have more than 3 cards, then just hitting 33% or less of total cards with a balance is an option (so if you had 9 cards, you could do 2 / 9 (22%) instead of 1/9).

 

@Anonymous how many total revolving cards do you have? 

Personal Aphorism:"Forget What You Feel, Remember What You Deserve"
Starting FICO 8s | 09/2017: EX 641 ✦ EQ 634 ✦ TU 647
Current FICO 8s | 04/2022: EX 796 ✦ EQ 793 ✦ TU 790
Current FICO 9s | 04/2022: EX 790 ✦ EQ 788 ✦ TU 782
2022 Goal Score | 800s

My AAoA:
4.6 years not incl. AU / 4.9 years incl. AU
My AoOA: 9.2 years not incl. AU / 11.2 years incl. AU
Inquiries: EX 0/12 ✦ EQ 0/12 ✦ TU 0/12
Report Status: Clean
Garden Status:  


Without patience, we will learn less in life. We will see less. We will feel less. We will hear less. Ironically, rush and more usually mean less.
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Anonymous
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Re: Score is dropping with AZEO


@Anonymous wrote:

I only had a 1% utilization rate to begin with so not sure if that makes a difference but even paying the $9 balance on one card dropped my Experian FICO8 14 points and my Transunion 4 points.


Paying off the $9 balance did not drop your scores.  You listed that you have multiple other bank cards with non-zero reported balances, so paying off any with the exception of the final one will have no adverse impact on your scores.  You could see some slight increases in fact due to less accounts with a reported balance, with maximum potential gain realized once you're at AZEO.  If you lost 14 points or 4 points on any score of yours, it happened due to something other than the $9 paydown/single account payoff.

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Anonymous
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Re: Score is dropping with AZEO

Absolutely nothing else has changed on my credit report except regular monthly payments. Nothing was late, no new inquiries, nothing. I monitor all 3 bureaus daily. I have 9 total revolving accounts on my report. 2 of the accounts are my husband's and I'm an AU. None are store cards. 

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Anonymous
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Re: Score is dropping with AZEO

If I were you I'd do a line by line comparison of the 2 reports.  Again, it's not possible that paying off that single $9 balance would drop your scores.

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NoHardLimits
Established Contributor

Re: Score is dropping with AZEO

You mentioned that you have AU cards.  Did the payment make all of your AU cards report a zero balance?

June 2025 Scorecard: Clean, Thick, Mature, New Revolver
FICO8:
FICO9:
VantageScore3:
Inquiries (n/12, n/24):
AAoA: 11 yrs | AoORA: 37 yrs | AoYRA: less than 1 yr | New Accounts: 0/6, 1/12, 2/24 | Util: 1% | DTI: 1%
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