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What’s hurting your FICO® score : I'm starting to think this entire thing is broken

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Student_Loans_Kill
Frequent Contributor

Re: What’s hurting your FICO® score : I'm starting to think this entire thing is broken


@Anonymous wrote:

@Student_Loans_Kill wrote:
AAoA at 11 years hurts my credit ??????(high achieves 6-12) 

 Length of credit history How long you've had credit. Very Good


Don't see how the AAOA is hurting you're credit.

It says "Very Good".

 


Exactly:

 

Understanding Your FICO® Score

 

 

 

 

You have a short credit history.

 

Your oldest account was opened 22 Years, 5 Months ago Average age of your accounts 11 years
FICO High Achievers [?]opened their oldest account 19 years ago, on average.
Most FICO High Achievers [?]have an average age of accounts between 6 and 12 years.

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llecs
Moderator Emeritus

Re: What’s hurting your FICO® score : I'm starting to think this entire thing is broken

Again, the 6-12 years is an average across everyone in every scoring bucket who has a score of 760+. This has nothing to do with your scoring bucket. Within your bucket, most of the folks have a higher AAoA and a longer credit history. Yours is lower in comparison. At the #4 slot, I wouldn't worry about it. You will gain more points as it increases, though.

Message 12 of 18
llecs
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Report: 03/15/2012


@Student_Loans_Kill wrote:

I'm not sure why I can't explain this.... One section says Account history is VERY GOOD (which is exactly what 3/1 report said in both sections) the other section says I have crappy account history.... Which doesn't even make sense, because AoAA is 11 years and oldeest account is 22 years 5 months.... 


I didn't see your edit...Compared to everyone in FICOland, your length of history (which includes AAoA) is very good. That's very good, but there's room to grow as it ages. This has ZERO to do with your scoring bucket and that #4 reason code. Among your peers within the same scoring bucket, your length of history and AAoA are younger compared to everyone else. Compared to everyone in and out of your bucket it is very good. Compared to your bucket, it can be better. Again, you'll gain more points as that improves.

Message 13 of 18
Student_Loans_Kill
Frequent Contributor

Re: What’s hurting your FICO® score : I'm starting to think this entire thing is broken


@llecs wrote:

Again, the 6-12 years is an average across everyone in every scoring bucket who has a score of 760+. This has nothing to do with your scoring bucket. Within your bucket, most of the folks have a higher AAoA and a longer credit history. Yours is lower in comparison. At the #4 slot, I wouldn't worry about it. You will gain more points as it increases, though.


 Ok, maybe i get it, but I still think there is a mistake with the program if it can tell my my history is great in one section and its hurting me in another section.

 Unless that first section "bucket" is comparing me to everyone with a 760+ score then I can see, but the wording still is horrible, if I fall within their examples.

 

 

Question 1:

Same report different information on each section.....Why does the FICO Score section have it Legth of credit History as VERY GOOD

Length of credit historyHow long you've had credit.

Very Good

 

 

 

 

and in the Understanding your FICO score section it suggests it "hurting your score" On the same report. 

Understanding Your FICO® Score

 

You have a short credit history.

 

Understanding Your FICO® Score

 

 

Question 2:

How does this change in 15 days with the only thing dropped is a Collection?

 

Understanding Your FICO® Score

 

 

 

 

 

FICO® Score SummaryLength of credit historyHow long you've had credit.

Very Good

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Message 14 of 18
llecs
Moderator Emeritus

Re: What’s hurting your FICO® score : I'm starting to think this entire thing is broken


@Student_Loans_Kill wrote:

@llecs wrote:

Again, the 6-12 years is an average across everyone in every scoring bucket who has a score of 760+. This has nothing to do with your scoring bucket. Within your bucket, most of the folks have a higher AAoA and a longer credit history. Yours is lower in comparison. At the #4 slot, I wouldn't worry about it. You will gain more points as it increases, though.


You are missing the point or not answering my question...

 

 

Question 1:

Same report different information on each section.....Why does the FICO Score section have it Legth of credit History as VERY GOOD

Length of credit historyHow long you've had credit.

Very Good

 

 

 

and in the Understanding your FICO score section it suggests it "hurting your score" On the same report. 

Understanding Your FICO® Score

 

You have a short credit history.

 

Understanding Your FICO® Score

The "Very Good" is not "Great". There's room for improvement with age. It isn't at Great because compared to others within your bucket, your AAoA is low.

 

 

Message 15 of 18
llecs
Moderator Emeritus

Re: What’s hurting your FICO® score : I'm starting to think this entire thing is broken

I will correct myself after getting some new info....the high achiever focuses in on 780 and above as opposed to 760 and above.

Message 16 of 18
Duke-of-Earl
Regular Contributor

Re: What’s hurting your FICO® score : I'm starting to think this entire thing is broken

I share your loss of faith.  I hate those "factors", always so nonsensical.  I went back to some mortgage application docs today to gather score info for a post ("What kind of scores are these?") elsewhere on this board, and was reminded of two whoppers from that time.

 

EQ and EX said "Amount owed on revolving accounts is too high."  It was $10, 0.03% of total CL $30K.  I had been carefully keeping my balances LOW-but-not-zero, as recommended here.

 

TU said "Insufficient length of credit history."  Oldest account was opened 35 years earlier, AAoA was 17.5 years.  If that's insufficient, it's no wonder the credit system froze up.

 

And I had good scores!  If you can't think of anything bad to say about someone, just make something up.

 

I complained about these comments to one of the LOs I dealt with.  She said "They're all like that.  I never pay any attention to those."

 

 


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Message 17 of 18
drkaje
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Re: What’s hurting your FICO® score : I'm starting to think this entire thing is broken

"Short credit history" could very easily be referring to revolving accounts, despite how long you've had student loans.

 

Hard to say. I try to ignore a lot of the advice and have been patiently awaiting the next SW alert.


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