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So I just made this, looking at this - what do I need to be working on, (and my husband?) We just want to get it right this time!
April Scores | ||||||
Kelly Equifax | Kelly Transunion | Kelly Experian | Jason Equifax | Jason Transunion | Jason Experian | |
Fico 8 (Overall) | 622 | 594 | 633 | 626 | 623 | 646 |
Mortgage 5 | 618 | 623 | 652 | 570 | 627 | 552 |
Auto 8 | 620 | 593 | 589 | 600 | 609 | 552 |
Auto 5 | 621 | 647 | 619 | 559 | 636 | 579 |
Bankcard 8 | 620 | 596 | 606 | 588 | 614 | 602 |
Bankcard 5 | 581 | 601 | 537 | 589 | ||
Score 9 | 632 | 611 | 576 | 576 | 647 | 530 |
Auto 9 | 641 | 612 | 576 | 604 | 652 | 539 |
Bankcard 9 | 642 | 610 | 578 | 588 | 643 | 539 |
Experian Only | ||||||
Bankcard 3 | 564 | 534 | ||||
Bankcard 2 | 628 | 528 |
You will need to work on all aspects of improving your scores. Usually any improvement in one can result in improvement in others, although there is no direct correlation. However, when you get within 6 months of applying for a MTG you want to visit the MTG forum to learn a few thinks that may help bump your MTG scores specifically for when the lender pulls your credit.
What is typically asked of people inquiring about improving scores is to list each account with UTL vs CL to include CC's and loans, age of accounts AoYA (age of youngest account), AAoA (average age of accounts), AoOA (age of oldest account), derogs (lates 30, 60 days, etc, collection accounts, bankruptcies, etc). You don't have to provide personal information like which CC or who your auto loan or personal loan is though, but it could be helpful because there are people here with specific knowledge about specific companies that may be helpful.
There are numerous people here who can help you with a plan to improve your scores based on your specific circumstances as each persons profile is different. But the basics of good credit behavior still stands true and will be part of that strategy: always pay accounts on time and reduce your utilization (UTL). These two factors hold the most weight when it comes to what makes up your scores.
Current File -
Card Name | Use | Limit | Max Spend 27% |
| Current Balance | APR | 8.7% equals | Annual Fee | New Annual Fee | Opened Date | Stmt Close Date | Due Date | Payoff Date |
Piercing Pagoda |
| $850 | $229.50 |
| $0 | 29.99% | $73.95 | n/a | n/a | 11/13/2018 | 1st | 27th | PAID |
Kohls. |
| $300 | $81 |
| $34 | 26.99% | $26.10 | n/a | n/a | 6/21/2018 | 15th | 13th | 4/19 |
Ulta |
| $250 | $67.50 |
| $0 | 27.99% | $21.75 | n/a | n/a | 11/13/2018 | 6th | 1st | PAID |
J Surge | Puppy | $800 | $216 |
| $0 | 30.99% | $69.60 | $96 | n/a | 3/29/2018 | 1st | 26th | PAID |
K Surge | Minor things | $800 | $216 |
| $0 | 30.99% | $69.60 | $96 | n/a | 3/29/2018 | 1st | 26th | PAID |
First Premier | K Gas | $700 | $189 |
| $0 | 36% | $60.90 | $45 | n/a | 10/12/2018 | 14th | 13th | PAID |
Credit One | MyFico | $700 | $189 |
| $0 | 26.15% | $60.90 | Not Clear – up to $99? | n/a | 3/30/2018 | 13th | 9th | Revolving |
Lend Up |
| $500 | $135 |
| $0 | 30.24% | $43.50 | $59 | n/a | Around 1/21/19 | 3rd | 28th | PAID |
Merrick
| J Gas | $500 | $135 |
| $0 | 31.95% | $43.50 | None after 1st year | n/a | 1/30/2019 | 15th | 12th | PAID |
Victoria’s Secret |
| $250 | $67.50 |
| $0 | 27.24% | $21.75 | n/a | n/a | 1/22/2019 | 2nd | 28th | PAID |
Sephora |
| $250 | $67.50 |
| $0 | 27.24% | $21.75 | n/a | n/a | 4/9/2019 |
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Venus |
| $250 | $67.50 |
| $0 | 27.24% | $21.75 | n/a | n/a | 4/9/2019 |
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Youngest Account - Sephora / Venus (last week)
AAoA - EQ: 61 mo TU: 53 mo EX: 53 mo
I have a personal loan through LendingClub - $4250 - 36 mo
All CC balances are now 0 after just paying them all in full 4/12 - before that UTIL was at about 50% on most of the higher limit ones. Store cards were mostly paid off at this point.
Ch 7 BK discharged 4/27/18
Derogs (prior to BK) - EQ: 19 accounts showing at 30+ days late TU: 17 accounts showing at 30+ days EX: 11accounts showing at 30+ days
No derogs since BK in 18'
Also note that each credit bureau may have different information and can be one of a few reasons why your scores for a specific model from each bureau may differ greatly. Note the difference in Jason's auto 9 score between EX and TU. 113 pt difference seems to indicate there is different information on each of these reports. Something that may be able to be disputed, removed and possible increase this score and others.
You both want to go through each bureau's report to verify it's accuracy.
There are guru's here that can provide more specific information regarding a game plan. Your BK is not that old and not sure about your derogs but you want to list when they occurred as penalties can lessen over time. Looks like nothing greater than 30 days. The older the late the harder it can hit you and the longer it can impact (hold back) your score potential. However, someone other than me can provide more information as to how to work with or around these derogs.
I was ready to discuss paying down those CC balances but it looks like you did this. Just reducing that large # of accounts reporting a balance will likely improve your MTG scores for now. But one thing to note is that there is a penalty for all revolvers (CC's) reporting $0. I know it sounds counter intuitive but it is what it is. Since credit reports are a snapshot of the time it is pulled, it would appear you are not using your credit, which you clearly are, but is somewhat frowned upon by the FICO algorithm Gods. But it also depends on when they report to the CB. From what I've gathered from these forums is that could easily cost you 20 pts or so. You always want at least one revolver report a balance, albeit $10 when your lenders report to the CB's monthly. You may still have time to buy a value meal on 1 card so it reports a balance. But even if that penalty happens, it will be reversed as soon as 1 card reports a balance. Easily fixed and no lasting affect.
I'm going to leave you to the guru's now because I'm not comfortable with providing a game plan and predicting score movement for others. Good luck!
@HeavenOhio wrote:Classic scores are everything not labeled as auto or bankcard scores, and they top out at 850 rather than 900. "Mortgage" is in quotes because the scores used for mortgages are actually old classic scores. We frequently cut to the chase and refer to them as "mortgage" scores.
Good advice on the scores most worth tracking. I will say it's worth noting that mortgage scores don't all top out at 850 like the rest of the classic scores though.
I think you might be looking at longer than a year to be able to get a mortgage with your recent BK. Perhaps others that are more in the know here can chime in on what they think.
One thing you do need to do is quit opening new accounts! Mortgage lenders like to see a one year quiet period on your reports before you app for the mortgage. They might require you to write a letter explaining why you opened accounts that are less than one year old at the time of the mortgage app.
You need to get your scores up so that you can get a quality bank card or two at a later date.
Off topic here, but what are K Surge and J Surge? I see both of those cards have $96 AFs. Do the benefits of those cards outweigh the AFs? If not, it may be a good idea to move on from them.
The only thing I see helping on J (Jason) Surge, and K (Kelly) Surge card, is that is one of the oldest, just passing the year mark. I agree with the numerous accounts opened in past year, is to let them age, with the Youngest hitting the 1 yr mark so you see the biggest bump and the inquiries become unscoreable FICO 8 wise.
As you continue the spreadsheet on scores, keep in mind as far as mortgage scores go. Lenders will do a tri-merge, pulling all 3 mortgage scores on each applicant. From that, they will use the "middle" mortgage score, tossing out the highest and lowest, and use the one in between. Then from the two applicants, they go with the lowest "middle" mortgage score.
Thank you for all of the tips guys. I do realize it's too early to get a mortgage and we won't be trying that for at least another year. For now, I'm not applying for any other cards and just going to use the ones we have for small purchases (gas etc) - pay down before the statement close and PIF by the due date. I'm hoping that will bump up our scores a bit. Also, still working on getting some corrections done with the bureaus - they are stubborn!