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Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?

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Anonymous
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Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?

Hello all. So I have 2 credit cards I use. I always pay the balance off and avoid any interest to accrue. Never late. One I’ve had for 2 years the other just over 1 year. I had a balance of $2,700 on one of them and $1000 on the other. I paid off the $1000 one. Then I paid $1700 off the $2,700 balance. Then another $500...another $500. This all took place over the last 3 months (Xmas spending.) At that time I checked my credit score which was good. Then today I get a message saying my score has stopped -9 due to “Your CC balance has decreased by $500.” So I pay off a balance on a card I’ve been in great standing with, never late, never maxed...yet my score drops 9 points for being responsible and showing I can pay my debts. What In the world causes this? Thank you all for this forum I appreciate any input.
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Anonymous
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?

Did both cards report with zero balances at the same time?  If so, that's probably what did it.  One card with a low reported balance yields a higher score than all cards at zero.

 

Why?  Probably because utilization has no "memory", and seeing all zero balances may mean "I'm responsible and pay off my debts", or it could mean "I never use these cards at all, so there's no way to tell if I'm responsible or not..."  One of the experts may have a better explanation...

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HeavenOhio
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?

That's an excellent explanation. Let one card report a small balance, and your points will come back. The good news is that once you understand where the fluctuations come from, there'll be no need to panic. Smiley Happy

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Anonymous
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?

Thank you so much. Yes both cards reported zero balance. The ‘no memory’ was what stood out for me. Great explanation! I was dismayed because I was thinking ‘ well last time my balances were $1000 and $2700... (utilization being shown) and now they’re zero ( dependenbility being shown). But I get what you’re saying. I probably don’t use them enough. I’ll use them for larger purchase then pay them off usually in less than 3 months. Would it be more beneficial, score wise, to use them for groceries, gas to show more usage yet maintain responsible payments? Thanks again!
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HeavenOhio
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?

Your scoring will be optimized if you show a very low balance on one card, with zero on the rest. You don't have to pay interest to do this. If your cards are like most cards, they'll report the statement balance on or right after the statement date. Before the dates that they report, pay one card down to between $5 and 8.9% of its limit, then feel free to pay in full after the statement cuts. Pay the other card down to zero, and allow the statement to cut with a zero balance.

 

Some cards report differently, i.e. something other than the statement balance on the statement date? Which cards do you have? If yours behave differently, we can let you know.

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Anonymous
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?

I would think my CC’s behave the way you described. I have a Capital One and a Chase Unlimited Feedom. Honestly I don’t pay attention to statements very well as I always pay off the balances quite quickly. For example I had those balances from Christmas and paid them off in February. I guess I need to pay more attention to not keeping the balances zero. Just seems so odd that a zero balance for a card that’s obviously being used is a bad thing ...lol.
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Adkins
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?


@Anonymouswrote:
I would think my CC’s behave the way you described. I have a Capital One and a Chase Unlimited Feedom. Honestly I don’t pay attention to statements very well as I always pay off the balances quite quickly. For example I had those balances from Christmas and paid them off in February. I guess I need to pay more attention to not keeping the balances zero. Just seems so odd that a zero balance for a card that’s obviously being used is a bad thing ...lol.

Use your Capital One to report a balance. Chase is a very different animal and it'll report a zero balance to the CRAs as soon as it's done, which can be a hassle if you're trying for maximum FICO points by using the AZEO method. 


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SkyCommander
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?

Does this work with each issuer? With my 6 cards let 1 Chase and 1 Amex show a low reported balance?

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Anonymous
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?

You can use just 1 card, no need to use 2.  It's also not recommended that a Chase card be used, as if you leave a small balance and then pay it off in a week or two Chase will go ahead and report the new $0 balance.

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SouthJamaica
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Re: Why is showing responsible use lowering my score?


@Anonymouswrote:
Thank you so much. Yes both cards reported zero balance. The ‘no memory’ was what stood out for me. Great explanation! I was dismayed because I was thinking ‘ well last time my balances were $1000 and $2700... (utilization being shown) and now they’re zero ( dependenbility being shown). But I get what you’re saying. I probably don’t use them enough. I’ll use them for larger purchase then pay them off usually in less than 3 months. Would it be more beneficial, score wise, to use them for groceries, gas to show more usage yet maintain responsible payments? Thanks again!

It's not a question of how much you use them, it's a question of what the statement balance shows, since that balance is usually what is reported as "utilization".   You can use the cards as much or as little as you like. But if you want to optimize your scores, you should have one reporting a small statement balance while the other reports a zero statement balance.

 

 


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