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Credit Journey - AMEX BCE Prequal - Denied - Cap1 Prequal SaverOne - Denied - want a 3rd card.

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Anonymous
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Re: AMEX BCE Prequal - Denied

I seriously wonder if it's not an income issue at this point. 

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OmarGB9
Community Leader
Super Contributor

Re: AMEX BCE Prequal - Denied

They might want at least a year of history.

Last App: 1/10/2023
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GApeachy
Super Contributor

Re: AMEX BCE Prequal - Denied

This is the Apr range I'm speaking of:

Apr range- prequal

My Take Home Pay Don't Take Me Home
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Meanmchine
Super Contributor

Re: AMEX BCE Prequal - Denied

Sorry OP

Kudoed for the positive outlook

>3/2016 EX 644 CK-TU 642 CK-EQ 660 WalMart- 671.
>3/2025 All 3 reports 845 - 850(F8) F9s = 835ish but my app finger is still twitching
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elixerin
Established Contributor

Re: AMEX BCE Prequal - Denied

ooo! my apologies for the misinformation. gee i must have used that tool 100 times during my 10-12month of credit history and never looked past the 0 apr mark LOL. i stand corrected

either way, dont be bummed OP. i have so many inquiries on my report trying to get lenders to trust me to take on the responsibility i was exactly in your shoes worrying about them. just hit 12 mo and try again Smiley Happy reading up on your other post it sounds(correct me if im wrong) like you’re at a pretty low inquiry count compared to me and ultimately its just the history length that swayed the decision. best wishes
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GApeachy
Super Contributor

Re: AMEX BCE Prequal - Denied


@elixerin wrote:
ooo! my apologies for the misinformation. gee i must have used that tool 100 times in my 10-12month of credit history and never looked past the 0 apr mark LOL. i stand corrected

either way, dont be bummed OP. i have so many inquiries on my report trying to get lenders to trust me to take on the responsibility i was in exactly in your shoes worrying about them. just hit 12 mo and try again Smiley Happy reading up on your other post it sounds(correct me if im wrong) like you’re at a pretty low inquiry count compared to me and ultimately its just the history length that swayed the decision. best wishes

I'm not saying you are wrong....I may be wrong about the "set" apr.  I am trying to find my screenshots now.  There is a range, big deal....but I may have mixed up a bank with this one.  I will edit my first response if and when I find it.  Glad you did post so I am double checking.

 

My Take Home Pay Don't Take Me Home
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GApeachy
Super Contributor

Re: AMEX BCE Prequal - Denied

Found it...in chat:

I would like to point out that looking at our pre qualified offers would not be the same as pre-approved offers which may state a set APR. Pre-qualification is how you find out which offers you're eligible for. Depending on your credit profile, you might be eligible for more personalized offers, say, a higher Welcome Bonus, or a lower APR. If you apply for a Card, your application will still be subject to our credit approval process.

(This does not mean they offer a set apr) I may have the mail preapproval mixed up with the online prequal.  My apologies everyone.

 

 

OP I was right at a year into my rebuild when Amex finally approved me.  Gardening will certainly not hurt; will help.  Good Luck!

My Take Home Pay Don't Take Me Home
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Anonymous
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Re: AMEX BCE Prequal - Denied

So I had to call to get application status since thier online tool refused to work which was wonderful. 

 

It was income which doesn't make sense. They said my current credit in relation to my income is too low. There is approvals here with income at 8,500 and 12k. Mine is higher then that. In fact in one of the approvals they gave them a 15k limit with income lower then mine. Their denial reason is complete BS if they approve such limits for people if income to credit is an issue..

 

Target and WF never had an issue with my income for initial approval. Sync and Cap1 denied me and never listed Income as a reason. Why is AMEX saying so? 

 

Their Pre-Qual page even ASKS for income which I entered and said Pre-Qualified...

 

I did apply for a CLI with WF and was denied and a UW said my income was low. However, The official letter I got just mentioned lack of experience with current account and not income so I am going by that. 

 

So as I said before I am under the impression Pre-Qualified offers are garbage marketing tools to get people to apply and have no actual merit batting 0 for 2 now. I will not be using them down the road to apply for future CC apps. 

 

Sick of playing games and sticking with WF as mentioned before the thread was merged. 

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FinStar
Moderator Emeritus

Re: AMEX BCE Prequal - Denied

Wanna try BB&T, Citi? Smiley Tongue

 

In all seriousness, stick to the original plan of gardening as you mentioned further upthread.  I mean, if you want to continue on this path for the sake of science to help others, then go for it.

 

There's a variety of factors that did not score high enough on their internal "scale" to approve your application.  That's the bottom line.  Income may have been cited as one factor, but it's fairly certain other elements were involved - you only need to be provided one reason. 

 

Another item to keep in mind, it is a futile effort to keep comparing your profile, income sources, etc. to those of others - no two profiles are alike.   While DPs can serve as some sort of barometer to gauge the odds, it's not exact science.  And, just as has been mentioned in previous discussions, pre-approved offers are not 100% guaranteed.  Yes, they can display for you (or anyone), but you don't have to submit an application if you know the odds may not yield a fruitful outcome (or feel like you have to apply).

 

Allow your profile to thicken up + scores to rise, and eventually things might be more favorable down the road.  Racking up HPs with a thin profile doesn't help your cause, unfortunately.

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Anonymous
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Re: AMEX BCE Prequal - Denied


@FinStar wrote:

Wanna try BB&T, Citi? Smiley Tongue

 

In all seriousness, stick to the original plan of gardening as you mentioned further upthread.  I mean, if you want to continue on this path for the sake of science to help others, then go for it.

 

There's a variety of factors that did not score high enough on their internal "scale" to approve your application.  That's the bottom line.  Income may have been cited as one factor, but it's fairly certain other elements were involved - you only need to be provided one reason. 

 

Another item to keep in mind, it is a futile effort to keep comparing your profile, income sources, etc. to those of others - no two profiles are alike.   While DPs can serve as some sort of barometer to gauge the odds, it's not exact science.  And, just as has been mentioned in previous discussions, pre-approved offers are not 100% guaranteed.  Yes, they can display for you (or anyone), but you don't have to submit an application if you know the odds may not yield a fruitful outcome (or feel like you have to apply).

 

Allow your profile to thicken up + scores to rise, and eventually things might be more favorable down the road.  Racking up HPs with a thin profile doesn't help your cause, unfortunately.


Heck, I may even try TD bank at some point since they gave me a RedCard approval without any quams tho a low CL.

 

As I said another HP didn't really harm me too much since I am going to the graden for two years anyways. What's another month if I'm going to wait two years anyways? 

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