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Hi, everyone. I'm new on the boards although I've been lurking a little. I'm a rebuilder after a very long 10 years of self-employment/small business problems and not very much credit (one sub-prime card with low limit) and fun stuff like 14% auto loans. Recently, I finally got tired of shredding all the Cap One pre-approvals coming in the mail, and so, on a lark, last December I applied. To my surprise got the Platinum Mastercard with a $2k limit. Since that was successful, I applied for and got a Miliestone Gold Mastercard with a $300 CL. Then I started checking scores and realized it was time to start working on it and get back some control.
Past history: not too good. I won't go into all the reasons and difficulties, but we are self-employed and income is irregular--it's always either feast or famine. During the mid-2000s we had to file chap 13. It was a bad advice (from the IRS) and we ended up letting it be dismissed. We had high credit scores prior to that, and nobody got burned because of the bk, but most of our credit cards (even Cap One) got closed anyway. I don't know why, but the good accounts have disappeared from our CR. Two baddies are still there.
Two years ago our 27-year-old mortgage went into forbearance. They told us NOT to make any payments during consideration and the process took a number of months. After approval, we had a 3-month "trial." So, then they reported it as unpaid all that time--so there's like this long streak , 7 or 8 months!!, of big red circles. However, the loan was successfully modified, we've had 17 months of perfect payments, and the balance on it is less than $20k.
Besides the mortgage, there are still two baddies left (plus EQ won't let go of the bk until April 2017). One will roll off in Oct (Exp rolled it off early). I'm not sure what to do about the other, but that's another discussion. Until we figure out the best way to handle it, it's still showing as a charge-off for a couple of years.
We would like to pay off the mtg next summer, sell the house and buy a new one. My goal is to get this all cleaned up and scores raised by then so the mortgage process won't be so hard. We won't be clean enough for a conventional loan by then (mainly because of the current mortgage lates), but we will only need to finance about 25-30%. My husband is a disabled vet, so we're eligible for a VA loan with lower score requirements. Just need to get those scores up.
So, my questions: when you start rebuilding, how long should you garden? And who's good to go for next? What can we do to improve our position by then?
I currently have 4 cards (two are AU). I'd like to get rid of the sub-prime card. Cap One's auto CLI bumped me to $5k, so total available credit is about $8,000 with hubby's auto CLI coming up next month. No lates or misses. Util is at 9%. AAoU is excellent (28 years). We use cards frequently and run small balances or PIF. No other open accts except the mtg. 2 hard pulls in 2 years. FICOs today are 682 EX, 666 EQ, 642 TU. EQ and TU should catch up with Exp in Oct. I was planning to wait till then, but from reading on here, I'm wondering if I should go for more now to get a score bump sooner, and to have a few more months for the AAoA? I got such a big bump from Exp when I got the Cap One CLI that I'm thinking maybe the sooner, the better.
I've been looking at Discover It, Barclay's, Cap One Quicksilver. One? Two? Maybe a store card? Walmart, Lowe's, Amazon? I don't really know how hard it is to get any of these cards. I think I'm pre-qualified for Discover and QS1, but the last thing I need at this point is a decline, so I don't want to rush--just wanna get going if it will help.
Any suggestions or advice? All help appreciated.
I guess, given my druthers, I'd prefer cash back. As far as store cards, I don't have a preference, but Amazon would be the most convenient. We have lived on a cash basis for 10 years, so credit cards aren't a necessity at all. I'm just looking to get those scores up, and the only thing I know to do, that we're not already doing, is to increase credit card use. I'm open to any other suggestions too.
Total CL: $321.7k | UTL: 2% | AAoA: 7.0yrs | Baddies: 0 | Other: Lease, Loan, *No Mortgage, All Inq's from Jun '20 Car Shopping |
Have you checked the pre-qaul sites? I would do that and see what you come upi with and agree with one of the other posters about your cap1. You could probably get that converted to a dq card. Good luck!
Nothing from AmEx yet. Funny thing is, I had a gold card with them pre-bk, and it was closed, but with an excellent payment history. They must have a long memory.
Discover is still showing a range on the interest rate.
I guess I'll see if I can get TU to roll off that bad acct and then try for a store card. Otherwise, it sounds like maybe I should wait for another big overall score bump in a few months. Thanks for all the tips.
oh, I meant to ask. A couple of you recommended trying to upgrade the Cap One card. Just wondering, does that do anything for your score? I was under the impression that which card you have doesn't matter in score calculation. Also, why would I want to upgrade the existing card instead of applying for QS as a second card?
@Anonymous wrote:oh, I meant to ask. A couple of you recommended trying to upgrade the Cap One card. Just wondering, does that do anything for your score? I was under the impression that which card you have doesn't matter in score calculation. Also, why would I want to upgrade the existing card instead of applying for QS as a second card?
The reason to upgrade your current card is so you can get a card with rewards without having to open a new account with the same lender, get to keep the account age and avoid the new account ding. Does your card have an AF? if so asking them to change your card to a no AF QS will be another bonus.
I never get a prequal with Amex either but that is because they don't ever SP my report. If you want one of their cards it will be a bit of a shot in the dark and with their funky rewards system (2 months for rewards to post and can only be redeemed in multiples of $25) I find their cash back cards kind of meh.
Do you have amazon prime? If so the Amazon store card is a really good choice and not hard to get
Would you use a Lowes card? the perks it has is the 5% off or special financing.
Unless you really like the idea of specially financing with Walmart I would skip them, their store card doesn't offer any other perks/rewards.
If you can get the baddy removed from TU, you should consider the Bank of America 1-2-3 rewards card, My BF has similar EX score as you and they send him preapprovals every week for that card, BofA generally pulls EX or TU. That would give you a gas/grocery card. Don't bother with BofA prequal site it doesn't work.
Barclay and chase normally like to see 12 months of revolving history before approving (but there are plenty of exceptions to that) and it wouldn't hurt you to try their prequal.
If you dine out a lot consider the Marvel card with 3% dining/entertainment
To build a really good score you only need 2-3 cards; 3 is typically recommended here as there is a FICO boost (normally only a few points) for having less than 50% of your cards reporting a balance. Most people on this site have more than that because they are after the rewards. For what you are looking to do adding 2 new cards will allow you to close your subprime card then with time an responsible use your profile will be in as good of shape as possible when you go for a mortgage next year.
Keep in mind that when you do get a new card(s) your score will go down due to the new account(s) but it is only temporary and should recover in 6ish months or less (depending on your profile). And don't apply for new cards within 6 months of going for a mortgage.
BTW welcome to the forums (I forgot to say that earlier!)