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US Bank CLI system denial "TransUnion Rapid Default Model Version 1"

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Zosimus
Regular Contributor

Re: US Bank CLI system denial "TransUnion Rapid Default Model Version 1"

Well, I've never been to El Salvador before, but I do know that a lot of people are moving there since the government made the place safe. Panama and Ecuador are other likely locations because they're all dollarized, so you don't need to learn a new currency.

 

 


Message 11 of 27
SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: US Bank CLI system denial "TransUnion Rapid Default Model Version 1"

I just got a denial yesterday, citing that same "TransUnion Rapid Default Model" Smiley Happy


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Message 12 of 27
OCONUS
Regular Contributor

Re: US Bank CLI system denial "TransUnion Rapid Default Model Version 1"


@SouthJamaica wrote:

I just got a denial yesterday, citing that same "TransUnion Rapid Default Model" Smiley Happy


I long hoped for USB cards to grow. This new trend is very disappointing lol

One Thing I failed to add is that when I requested the CLI, I had my TU frozen. I am not sure if a thawed TU would have yielded a different outcome or a different scoring model for evalution.

 

When I called in, the rep suggested that I resubmit the CLI request for a manual review. She wanted me to unfreez my TU so they can do a HP.



Message 13 of 27
risingup2day
Regular Contributor

Re: US Bank CLI system denial "TransUnion Rapid Default Model Version 1"

I just did a CLI after 7 months and mine said the same thing. I was hoping this card would grow, but just shy of 19 months still sits low @$2k. Though mine is kinda accurate! Lol TU has 10 inquiries in the last 24 months. Discover TU Fico 8 scores shows 811. USB rapid default model has me @ 535... 🤨 

Message 14 of 27
OCONUS
Regular Contributor

Re: US Bank CLI system denial "TransUnion Rapid Default Model Version 1"


@risingup2day wrote:

I just did a CLI after 7 months and mine said the same thing. I was hoping this card would grow, but just shy of 19 months still sits low @$2k. Though mine is kinda accurate! Lol TU has 10 inquiries in the last 24 months. Discover TU Fico 8 scores shows 811. USB rapid default model has me @ 535... 🤨 


In Oct 2023, USB did give me a USBAR with 10K CL. They then cited a TU FICO OF 680.

Someone said that 7 months is the charm with USB. I aimed for CLI at 7 months mark while not realizing I added 7/6 cards that they will factor in. I have 7 INQ on TU. Though TU FICO is 782, TU RDMV1 is 460Smiley Surprised



Message 15 of 27
SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: US Bank CLI system denial "TransUnion Rapid Default Model Version 1"


@OCONUS wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

I just got a denial yesterday, citing that same "TransUnion Rapid Default Model" Smiley Happy


I long hoped for USB cards to grow. This new trend is very disappointing lol

One Thing I failed to add is that when I requested the CLI, I had my TU frozen. I am not sure if a thawed TU would have yielded a different outcome or a different scoring model for evalution.

 

When I called in, the rep suggested that I resubmit the CLI request for a manual review. She wanted me to unfreez my TU so they can do a HP.


I can only say that I did not have anything frozen when I got rejected Smiley Happy


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 699 TU 696 EX 682




Message 16 of 27
thundr101
New Contributor

Re: US Bank CLI system denial "TransUnion Rapid Default Model Version 1"

I requested a CLI in the US Bank app and got a near-immediate "Unable to approve your request" after hitting submit. Just got the decline email, citing the same verbiage as your message noted.

 

I have a 783 FICO on TU, but this 'Transunion Rapid Default Model Version 1' has me at a 453 (from 300-850).

 

I had to read the notice a few times. One impacting factor was "Too few join accounts".. really seems like these scoring models are *trying* to find a reason to cite, for a lower score.

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Message 17 of 27
Numerophile
Member

Re: US Bank CLI system denial "TransUnion Rapid Default Model Version 1"

I, too, requested a CLI for my US Bank Shopper Cash Rewards card.  My request was made in online banking.  Instantaneously, I was denied with the same "Unable to approve your request" message.  All my reports were locked at the time of request.

 

My decline letter had the same reasons: (1) too many inquiries; and (2) too few joint accounts.  They cited a score of 516 on the TransUnion Rapid Default Model Version 1 used in their decision.  The score date was from the end of February while the CLI was requested at the beginning of April.  

 

My TU FICO 08 on the same date was 789.  There were 6 inquiries - 3 from Nov 2022 and 3 from Nov 2023.  

 

My assessment is that this is a garbage model with garbage reasons for flawed scoring.  Six inquiries in 2 years might be a little high but isn't anywhere near extreme, nor does it warrant a 516.  And while I do have joint accounts, and they make up about 15% of both the total number of accounts and total $$ outstanding, nowhere anywhere is a person required to have joint accounts.  Last time I checked, it's illegal to discriminate based on marital status.

 

Here's what's most absurd to me - when US Bank pulled my credit report before I got the card, it showed 6 new revolving accounts within 60 days, and  I was 8/12 and 10/24.  Then they rewarded me 8 months later by doubling my limit.  Now 8 months after that, a whole lot of charges made and paid, I am mud to them.  This is a failed experiment on their part.  And if it persists, I'll move all that spend to other card(s).  I don't need US Bank.  I just like them when they're not tripping over their own bad decisions, like say, being suckered into buying 'oceanfront property in Kansas' (aka RDMV1) from TransUnion.  

 

Those are my datapoints, and a little bit of commentary to make me feel better.   Smiley Wink

Message 18 of 27
CYBERSAM
Senior Contributor

Re: US Bank CLI system denial "TransUnion Rapid Default Model Version 1"

This is very discouraging for a newly added 2 US Bank CCs Smiley Sad

 

Do we have any data to what factors in for TransUnion Rapid Default Model? Seems very inq sensitive for now!







                
Message 19 of 27
Traveler101
Established Contributor

Re: US Bank CLI system denial "TransUnion Rapid Default Model Version 1"

The thing that urks me most about USB, is how some can get a sp cli while others are denied. Some get/got sp increases every 7th month, while many of us can paper our walls with letters of denial because our reports are locked. Some of those have been account holders for years and still denied. So much for relationship banking. 

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