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BigBS
Senior Contributor

Re: Redstone Visa Signature DENIED! Then 3 cards approved in 1 hour


@Vash wrote:

@BigBS 

It was manually reviewed even before their first denial.  

About 20 min after I filled the application, they called me to ask if my payroll deposit was partial or full.  I told them it was partial of course.  

 

Not long after, I got an email of denial.  They counter-offered the “traditional visa” (no cash back) at $2,000.     I appealed by email and later called.   They told me they will get back to me soon.  Then within 20 minutes of me calling them, they called me and said it was denied again.     I doubt they even looked at my information again.  They told me it was the management reaching the decision on uphold the “counter offer”.   And they gave me 10 days to accept or decline the counter-offer.   

 

I have had no hard pull on EX for over 14 months.   With a household income of $120k+.   They never asked for any support documents.

 

Did you appeal just once?   

I think I might need to talk to a different person over there.   


Yes, it was a single appeal. Very short review period (about an hour) before receiving an approval e-mail. Of note, I had applied for the same card 3 years before and was declined then, as well. for inquiries and new accounts. The differences the second time were I was 0/6, 0/12 for credit cards with a higher income and an existing savings account. The savings account is an option some have used and received pre-approvals for the credit card. Didn't work for me though.

Score: EQ(809) EX(819) TU(800)
INQs: EQ(7) EX(16) TU(8)
Last INQ: 13 Jul 23

Total Credit Limit - $2.0M

Message 21 of 38
KingRue8500
Senior Contributor

Re: Redstone Visa Signature DENIED! Then 3 cards approved in 1 hour

Congrats on your approvals




Message 22 of 38
CreditCuriosity
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Redstone Visa Signature DENIED! Then 3 cards approved in 1 hour


@BigBS wrote:

@Vash wrote:

@BigBS 

It was manually reviewed even before their first denial.  

About 20 min after I filled the application, they called me to ask if my payroll deposit was partial or full.  I told them it was partial of course.  

 

Not long after, I got an email of denial.  They counter-offered the “traditional visa” (no cash back) at $2,000.     I appealed by email and later called.   They told me they will get back to me soon.  Then within 20 minutes of me calling them, they called me and said it was denied again.     I doubt they even looked at my information again.  They told me it was the management reaching the decision on uphold the “counter offer”.   And they gave me 10 days to accept or decline the counter-offer.   

 

I have had no hard pull on EX for over 14 months.   With a household income of $120k+.   They never asked for any support documents.

 

Did you appeal just once?   

I think I might need to talk to a different person over there.   


Yes, it was a single appeal. Very short review period (about an hour) before receiving an approval e-mail. Of note, I had applied for the same card 3 years before and was declined then, as well. for inquiries and new accounts. The differences the second time were I was 0/6, 0/12 for credit cards with a higher income and an existing savings account. The savings account is an option some have used and received pre-approvals for the credit card. Didn't work for me though.


Comparing your profile to OP's profile is apples to oranges in many areas as you know as you have been around for quite some time.  Scores are just one part of the equation.  I feel bad for OP, but has a pretty limited credit history, not big limits and well fairly new to credit and at a newer job to boot.  A lot of things going on with their profile why they likely denied them.  I think excessive credit seeking wasn't the main reason and could of been overcame as you overcame it with 2+ million in credit.  They didn't care about my absurd amount of credit either when I use to be with them.  I think if OP applied again in say a year once more matured credit profile and other limits over 5k and longer time at job in current economic conditions they likely would approve for said card if OP doesn't go on an app-o-rama.

08 Scores - TU: 839 - EXP:839 - EQ:838
Message 23 of 38
BigBS
Senior Contributor

Re: Redstone Visa Signature DENIED! Then 3 cards approved in 1 hour


@CreditCuriosity wrote:

@BigBS wrote:

@Vash wrote:

@BigBS 

It was manually reviewed even before their first denial.  

About 20 min after I filled the application, they called me to ask if my payroll deposit was partial or full.  I told them it was partial of course.  

 

Not long after, I got an email of denial.  They counter-offered the “traditional visa” (no cash back) at $2,000.     I appealed by email and later called.   They told me they will get back to me soon.  Then within 20 minutes of me calling them, they called me and said it was denied again.     I doubt they even looked at my information again.  They told me it was the management reaching the decision on uphold the “counter offer”.   And they gave me 10 days to accept or decline the counter-offer.   

 

I have had no hard pull on EX for over 14 months.   With a household income of $120k+.   They never asked for any support documents.

 

Did you appeal just once?   

I think I might need to talk to a different person over there.   


Yes, it was a single appeal. Very short review period (about an hour) before receiving an approval e-mail. Of note, I had applied for the same card 3 years before and was declined then, as well. for inquiries and new accounts. The differences the second time were I was 0/6, 0/12 for credit cards with a higher income and an existing savings account. The savings account is an option some have used and received pre-approvals for the credit card. Didn't work for me though.


Comparing your profile to OP's profile is apples to oranges in many areas as you know as you have been around for quite some time.  Scores are just one part of the equation.  I feel bad for OP, but has a pretty limited credit history, not big limits and well fairly new to credit and at a newer job to boot.  A lot of things going on with their profile why they likely denied them.  I think excessive credit seeking wasn't the main reason and could of been overcame as you overcame it with 2+ million in credit.  They didn't care about my absurd amount of credit either when I use to be with them.  I think if OP applied again in say a year once more matured credit profile and other limits over 5k and longer time at job in current economic conditions they likely would approve for said card if OP doesn't go on an app-o-rama.


@CreditCuriosity- wasn't doing a comparison just providing my experience.

Score: EQ(809) EX(819) TU(800)
INQs: EQ(7) EX(16) TU(8)
Last INQ: 13 Jul 23

Total Credit Limit - $2.0M

Message 24 of 38
CreditCuriosity
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Redstone Visa Signature DENIED! Then 3 cards approved in 1 hour


@BigBS wrote:

@CreditCuriosity wrote:

@BigBS wrote:

@Vash wrote:

@BigBS 

It was manually reviewed even before their first denial.  

About 20 min after I filled the application, they called me to ask if my payroll deposit was partial or full.  I told them it was partial of course.  

 

Not long after, I got an email of denial.  They counter-offered the “traditional visa” (no cash back) at $2,000.     I appealed by email and later called.   They told me they will get back to me soon.  Then within 20 minutes of me calling them, they called me and said it was denied again.     I doubt they even looked at my information again.  They told me it was the management reaching the decision on uphold the “counter offer”.   And they gave me 10 days to accept or decline the counter-offer.   

 

I have had no hard pull on EX for over 14 months.   With a household income of $120k+.   They never asked for any support documents.

 

Did you appeal just once?   

I think I might need to talk to a different person over there.   


Yes, it was a single appeal. Very short review period (about an hour) before receiving an approval e-mail. Of note, I had applied for the same card 3 years before and was declined then, as well. for inquiries and new accounts. The differences the second time were I was 0/6, 0/12 for credit cards with a higher income and an existing savings account. The savings account is an option some have used and received pre-approvals for the credit card. Didn't work for me though.


Comparing your profile to OP's profile is apples to oranges in many areas as you know as you have been around for quite some time.  Scores are just one part of the equation.  I feel bad for OP, but has a pretty limited credit history, not big limits and well fairly new to credit and at a newer job to boot.  A lot of things going on with their profile why they likely denied them.  I think excessive credit seeking wasn't the main reason and could of been overcame as you overcame it with 2+ million in credit.  They didn't care about my absurd amount of credit either when I use to be with them.  I think if OP applied again in say a year once more matured credit profile and other limits over 5k and longer time at job in current economic conditions they likely would approve for said card if OP doesn't go on an app-o-rama.


@CreditCuriosity- wasn't doing a comparison just providing my experience.


@BigBS I know you weren't, but I did right/wrong just to put it in perspective for OP.  Just too thin of profile long story short it appears.

08 Scores - TU: 839 - EXP:839 - EQ:838
Message 25 of 38
creditfan
Established Contributor

Re: Redstone Visa Signature DENIED! Then 3 cards in 1 hour (approved)


@Vash wrote:

@creditfan 

 

Want me to look at you with  jealousy?  🤣

How long ago did you join Redstone?  
How long is your credit history and scores? 

 


joined back to 11/2021

credit history 10+ years

score above 700

Message 26 of 38
Vash
Valued Member

Re: Redstone Visa Signature DENIED! Then 3 cards in 1 hour (approved)

Thank you all for the congrats and information.

 

I have some updates myself.  So the AAA Daily Advantage I applied for over a week ago finally arrived two days ago.  I have already tried it at a Walmart Super Center.  Now I can confirm it gets 5% cash back at Walmart Super Center.  

That was after I spent over $122 there, and a little more than $6 cash back was just posted to my account.  All I bought was food.  And I used it with Walmart Pay.   

On a side note, I have been an authorized user of my wife's Capital One Walmart card.  It gave 5% in-store when using Walmart Pay, but only for the first year.  Then it is 2% only when in store.  Still 5% when buying online though.   That in-store 5% first year has since expired for us.  Now I am happy that our spending at Walmart is back at 5%.😆  Groccaries for us is actually a much higher expense than gas and restaurants combined.  

 

Message 27 of 38
NoMoreDebt
Senior Contributor

Re: Redstone Visa Signature DENIED! Then 3 cards approved in 1 hour

Congratulations

AMEX CHARLES SCHWAB PLATINUM NPSL/ AMEX CHARLES SCHWAB INVESTOR CARD $28,900 CL/ AMEX MORGAN STANLEY BLUE CASH $5K CL/ AMEX GOLD NPSL / AMEX GREEN NPSL/ AMEX EVERYDAY PREFERRED $1100 CL/AMEX BLUE BUSINESS PLUS $5000 SL/ AMEX BLUE CASH EVERYDAY $18,000 / FIDELITY REWARDS VISA $23,500 SL

SOCKDRAWER/ PAYPAL CREDIT LINE $1700/NFCU FLAGSHIP $40,000 CL/ NFCU MORE REWARDS $40,000/ WELLS FARGO AUTOGRAPH $8200/APPLE CARD $6500/DISCOVER IT $3000 SL/CITI COSTCO ANYWHERE VISA $6000 SL
Message 28 of 38
Vash
Valued Member

Redstone Visa Signature approved @$5k after 2nd appeal (see update on page 3)

Hohoho!  

I have one big surprising update!  
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As you can see, I appealed again (with lots of details to explain my credit history, my job history, especially focused on my past hard inquiries, including one hard pull from simply joining another credit union).   Redstone overturned their "counter offer" of $2,000 traditional visa, and instead offered me Visa Signature with $5,000 credit limit.  All they asked were two most recent paystubs.   I sent the requested paystubs rightaway.  They had more snow days and stayed closed until today.   And just one hour ago I received docs to sign.  So I signed while having dinner.  
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According to them, I will receive my Redstone Visa Signature in 7-14 days.  Heart

 

By the way, I received all my other 4 cards already.  
AAA Daily Advantage (Applied on 1/3, received on 1/12)

Apple Card (Applied on 1/10, received on 1/16)

American Express Blue Cash Everyday (Applied on 1/10, received on 1/18)

Paypal Mastercard (Applied on 1/10, received on 1/20).

 

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Plus Redstone Visa Signature, I basically got five new cards in one month Smiley Very Happy

 

That was with 777 FICO 8 score in both EX and TU.   But with just 14 months of credit history on a single Discover IT Chrome card (graduated from secured card),  two authorized user cards, and a Huntington "Standby Cash" account which is counted as "line of credit" by credit bureaus.  

 

Well, once again, I did not apply for new credit cards for the sake of needing money.  I just want to save money with great cash backs on the "better cards".   Now I will have 5% cash back on groceries, restaurants, and gas.  My wife just got a new Prime Visa signature in addition to her one year old Capital One Walmart, eaxh can get 5% on their websites.   For any other online shopping, I can use PayPal for 3% with PayPal master card or AMEX Blue Cash Everyday.  For any other not covered categories when in store, I can get 2% cash back with either Apple Card on Apple Pay, or with physical card of PayPal Mastercard if Apple Pay is not accepted.   

Now I have my eyes on Citi Custom Cash, and US Bank Cash Plus.   But I will be gardening for at least a year first 😂.   I might let my wife to apply for a second AAA Daily Advantage to double the $10k annual spending limit on groceries since we will exceed that amount as a family of four.   

Your thoughts? Smiley Happy

Message 29 of 38
youngandcreditwrthy
Senior Contributor

Re: Redstone Visa Signature DENIED! Then 3 cards approved in 1 hour

its a good long story, however, if your oldest account is only a 14 mo old discover account, prepare for a big drop  in your score when the new accounts report? (assuming you dont have any other accounts to battle out the weighted average AAOA)

 

and ofc CONGRATS :-) These are great accounts. don't forget to ask Amex for a 3xcli after second statement or around 61 days. You could grow the amex account to 9k in about 9 months theoretically 61 days 3xcli and 181 days 3xcli SP. 

be careful how you utilize these too assuming you have a short aaoa of less than a year after all this cause you will get aa'ed if you let reported util get too high with a thin profile. 

Marriott PR$25k | BCE $24.5K |BankAmericard Visa $25k| BOA Better Bal $17.5k |Wmt Discover $12.5k | BR Visa $17.5k | Amex Delta Gold $10k | Discover IT $10k | Paypal Extras MC $15k | Amazon Store $10k|Smile Gen $7.25k | Dillard's $10k | West Elm $4k| Express $3.05K | Mypoints.com Visa $4.5k | Freedom Visa $1k| Amex Surpass $1k
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