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I have a 2012 Bank America Cash Rewards Visa Platinum Card that i've successfully removed the $39 annual fee and had it changed to Better Balance Rewards as of last year because i was only earning $50 cash back on my Cash Rewards and figured i could be earning $125 a year having the Better Balance Rewards nstead so i made the switch.
Better Balance Rewards usually comes in a Mastercard but they kept it Visa when they changed it from Cash Rewards to BBR. The only thing i did not like was because it was the first credit card it sits at a low $500.
When i hand it to the cashier at starbucks (because of their BankAmeriDeals 10% Cash Back using your BankAmerica Card) I am embarrass because it's not ''Signature Visa'' makes me feel and look like i may have ''bad'' credit or just carrying a secured card.
When i tried asking if i can be upgrded to a signature visa they said my card does not qualify and need to hard pull my credit report.for a credit limit increas to $5,000. The problem is would i be better off applying for Bank America Signature Visa (preqalified on their site) then i get $100 cash back when i spend $500 in 90 days. Then could they roll over my cash rewards credit line to Better Balance Rewards and close 2015 Cash Rewards ? or would i be better using my ''hard inquiry'' for either US bank cash+ or Chase Sapphire Preferred ?
because i know US Bank may be inquiry sensitive and i was planning applying either those 2 in the fall but did not want my inquir from Bank Ameroca get in the way. BTW, my Freedom is signature Visa. Capital One EO would not convert my Capital One Quicksilver Mastercard to Signature visa either. Said i need apply for a Signature Visa and then close the Mastercard which would be stupid since its also one of the longest accounts opened with Bank America.
Capital One was $500 but they now allow you combine your cards which was how i got it from $500 to $5,000 without a hard inquiry though unlike Bank America trying to do. So my question is what's the best way getting your cards upgraded to a Signature Visa when its costing you a hard inquiry ? apply it or increase it ? or would you rather use your hard inquiry somewhre else and just not use your non signature visa useless $500 limit card ?
What i want ? i want my Bank America $500 limit up with my rest of my portfolio cards and upgraded to signature visa WITHOUT a hard inquiry but they won't do it without a hard inquiry which i wanted to save for adding chase sapphire signature visa and or US bank Cash+ signature visa to my portfolio in the fall so it seems if i want to do this its going to cost me 2 if not 3 hard inquires instead of just 1, i currently have 24 inquiries but 0 in the last 6 months.
I been a good boy until next black friday
thank you
The only real advice I have is that if your profile is strong, with few inqs and a good score, etc, you have a better shot at a limit about 5k on a card that could be Visa Sig, and with the higher limit you'll be given a Signature in most cases.
However, I will say like I always do, it's really nothing to concern yourself with much. I went through a lot of hassle to get my QS changed to Visa Signature and tell anyone who will listen that it was not worth the effort because seriously, the only benefit 98% of people remotely use is a discount on movie tickets, while the rest of the benefits are largely very niche/fringe travel benefits.
Even if you have to take a HP either way, a new account will ding your AAOA as well, whereas a HP to simply upgrade your existing card won't ding it. If you don't have a need for any new card, take the HP and get your account upgraded....don't apply for a card you don't want/need just because of the very small benefits of Visa Signature.
@Anonymous wrote:I have a 2012 Bank America Cash Rewards Visa Platinum Card that i've successfully removed the $39 annual fee and had it changed to Better Balance Rewards as of last year because i was only earning $50 cash back on my Cash Rewards and figured i could be earning $125 a year having the Better Balance Rewards nstead so i made the switch.
Better Balance Rewards usually comes in a Mastercard but they kept it Visa when they changed it from Cash Rewards to BBR. The only thing i did not like was because it was the first credit card it sits at a low $500.
When i hand it to the cashier at starbucks (because of their BankAmeriDeals 10% Cash Back using your BankAmerica Card) I am embarrass because it's not ''Signature Visa'' makes me feel and look like i may have ''bad'' credit or just carrying a secured card.
When i tried asking if i can be upgrded to a signature visa they said my card does not qualify and need to hard pull my credit report.for a credit limit increas to $5,000. The problem is would i be better off applying for Bank America Signature Visa (preqalified on their site) then i get $100 cash back when i spend $500 in 90 days. Then could they roll over my cash rewards credit line to Better Balance Rewards and close 2015 Cash Rewards ? or would i be better using my ''hard inquiry'' for either US bank cash+ or Chase Sapphire Preferred ?
because i know US Bank may be inquiry sensitive and i was planning applying either those 2 in the fall but did not want my inquir from Bank Ameroca get in the way. BTW, my Freedom is signature Visa. Capital One EO would not convert my Capital One Quicksilver Mastercard to Signature visa either. Said i need apply for a Signature Visa and then close the Mastercard which would be stupid since its also one of the longest accounts opened with Bank America.
Capital One was $500 but they now allow you combine your cards which was how i got it from $500 to $5,000 without a hard inquiry though unlike Bank America trying to do. So my question is what's the best way getting your cards upgraded to a Signature Visa when its costing you a hard inquiry ? apply it or increase it ? or would you rather use your hard inquiry somewhre else and just not use your non signature visa useless $500 limit card ?
What i want ? i want my Bank America $500 limit up with my rest of my portfolio cards and upgraded to signature visa WITHOUT a hard inquiry but they won't do it without a hard inquiry which i wanted to save for adding chase sapphire signature visa and or US bank Cash+ signature visa to my portfolio in the fall so it seems if i want to do this its going to cost me 2 if not 3 hard inquires instead of just 1,
i currently have 24 inquiries but 0 in the last 6 months.
I been a good boy
until next black friday
thank you
Good work on removing the annual fee and a successful product change/conversion! I understand your frustration with low limits. AMEX started me off at $1,000 a few years ago and it's slowly grown since then.
No need to be ashamed about not having a VISA Signature. Most cashiers aren't looking that closely and most people outside of this forum don't obsess over credit cards.
If you're trying to protect your AAoA, then by all means call BOA and ask to talk with a credit analyst (or call the backdoor directy). Request a CLI to your desired amount ($5000 or more). In my experience BOA has been great with CLIs. Good luck!
If you're not concerned about your AAoA, then consider which card fits your needs and spending habits: CSP or Cash+. From what I understand, the Cash+ is a difficult card to obtain (often involving manual review). I love my CSP (it's more a travel card), but Chase is stingy with CLIs. I've read here that Chase tends to give bigger limits on second cards. So, since you already have a Freedom Signature, perhaps you'll get a decent CL if you apply for the CSP.
Good luck!
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@WLRK11 wrote:
No need to be ashamed about not having a VISA Signature. Most cashiers aren't looking that closely and most people outside of this forum don't obsess over credit cards.
This! Starbucks cashiers have way too many cards in a day to examine, and no time and often cc knowledge to make value judgements. And worse case, why do you care if they decide you have poor credit? You aren't applying for a mortgage, or even trying to get the coffee on credit (from them).
Also, why not use the Starbucks gold card which gives much better rewards at starbucks than most credit cards (which can anyway be used to load the card).
Finally, I (and several others) have my highest CL on a Visa Pla and my lowest (1/7th of the highest) on a Mastercard World. Not all banks used to issue Signatures (penfed was one for example) It really says nothing about credit worthiness.
@kdm31091 wrote:The only real advice I have is that if your profile is strong, with few inqs and a good score, etc,
This. There's one-size-ftis-all answer anyway since each creditor has its own underwriting criteria and that can even vary by product.
Why is the OP after a Signature anyway? What is the desired benefit?
@Anonymous wrote:Finally, I (and several others) have my highest CL on a Visa Pla and my lowest (1/7th of the highest) on a Mastercard World. Not all banks used to issue Signatures (penfed was one for example) It really says nothing about credit worthiness.
Yup. My highest CL by a good margin is a Visa Platinum. My lowest is also a World Mastercard.
@Anonymous wrote:
When i hand it to the cashier at starbucks (because of their BankAmeriDeals 10% Cash Back using your BankAmerica Card) I am embarrass because it's not ''Signature Visa'' makes me feel and look like i may have ''bad'' credit or just carrying a secured card.
Really? Now I see where the Starbucks comment comes from. If you're insecure about your cards then your cards aren't your problem. Cashiers have better things to do than worry about the specific card each customer is using to pay with. Besides, if someone is easily impressed by a card you're using then they're probably not worth impressing. Prestige doesn't come from a card but for those that think it does there's always the Visa Black.
@Anonymous wrote:What i want ? i want my Bank America $500 limit up with my rest of my portfolio cards and upgraded to signature visa WITHOUT a hard inquiry but they won't do it without a hard inquiry
So which is the bigger priority for you? Sort it out and take the appropriate action.
Why are you so hard set on a Visa Signature? Do you need an ego bump? If so, then fine. But if you just want one it's not worth doing inquiries and applying for new cards. It's just a type of card......not even the most top tier Visa they offer anyhow.
By the way, if you're trying to impress people at Starbucks or other places, news flash, they don't care. And a BoA card is not impressive, even if it's a Visa Signature. I'm not sure why you need to impress someone who works at Starbucks but I would save your profile from using to boost your pretend image of worth.
I agree with Drzoidberg.... You will not be able to impress anyone with a BOA card. Outside of the form I still get my ooohs and awwws with my AMEX PRG and most people on here are not impressed with this card. But the real reality is what are you benefiting from your card? Is it giving you what you need? I think that these are more important questions.