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What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?

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CreditMarathoner
Frequent Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?


@fury1995 wrote:

Because no matter how high your largest credit limit is, this never goes away, lol

 

"Your largest credit limit on open bankcard or credit card accounts is too low"


I've never seen that one before.  Credit Karma doesn't show that for me.  Maybe only other sites that use Vantage 3.0 scores show it?

 

If that's an actual reason code, I wonder what their threshold is.  Maybe it's just generically coded based on "lower utilization = higher scores, therefore a higher limit = higher scores".

 

My FICO scores are actually quite a bit higher than my CK (VS 3.0) scores, right now.

 

    
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Message 21 of 32
fury1995
Valued Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?


@CreditMarathoner wrote:

@fury1995 wrote:

Because no matter how high your largest credit limit is, this never goes away, lol

 

"Your largest credit limit on open bankcard or credit card accounts is too low"


I've never seen that one before.  Credit Karma doesn't show that for me.  Maybe only other sites that use Vantage 3.0 scores show it?

 

If that's an actual reason code, I wonder what their threshold is.  Maybe it's just generically coded based on "lower utilization = higher scores, therefore a higher limit = higher scores".

 

My FICO scores are actually quite a bit higher than my CK (VS 3.0) scores, right now.

 


It is an actual reason code. It's not an if. The url link with sanctioned reasons codes that @Thomas_Thumb provided is right above your post. It's NOT from Credit Karma.

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Message 22 of 32
Shooting-For-800
Senior Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?

Fact is...everyone is different.

Family sizes vary.

Incomes vary.

Cost of living varies.

Lifestyles vary.

I have friends that make half as much as me and others that make 5 times as much.

 

For us, it is all about utilization and emergencies.

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Message 23 of 32
CCrew
Regular Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?

Mine's similar but was driven by the card issuers themselves. 

During the last big recession I only had 3 credit cards. All of them had high limits, but were balance chased to less than 10% of their initial CL's, and at that time carried balances, which totally tanked my scores due to util. I swore it would never happen again. So as the economy improved I opened new accounts and highly diversified across card lenders. Over the years CL's grew either organically or by requesting CL's. As a result, any or even multiple lenders could close accounts at this point and not have much effect on me. I still to this day keep an eye on diversification, for instance latest being killing a Amazon store card w/Sync in favor of a Chase Amazon Visa to reduce my exposure to Sync. 
I currently have just under $200k in available credit with 1% util at last report and PIF. And I play zero games with lenders. If they don't want my business they're gone. Diversification puts me in control and not them. 

Message 24 of 32
Puppetmaster
Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?

I have more credit card credit than I hope I will ever use all at once, and I intend to add more.  There are several reasons why, none of which are founded in ego or gamesmanship.

 

My income is wavey.  My utilization, as both a practical matter and a scoring matter, goes up and down a lot.  At its peaks, it affects scores enough to trigger interest rate increases and/or CL decreases at times.  When my utilization drops to <10%, scores soar.  The large limits, as others have pointed out, buffer the score roller coaster, keeping scores more stable and preventing alarms from going off with creditors.

 

As my scores have climbed and become more stable, I have been able to gain credit at lower and lower interest rates, and with other favorable tefms.  Many of the older credit products I could get a few years ago, cannot adapt to my current qualification for better rates and terms.  So part of getting more new credit is simply to get better credit.  That, then, begs the question, "should I close older credit when I get better credit, or should I keep both?"

 

I close nuisance credit, such as a card with a $500 CL that can't be increased.  But I leave open other credit that I may not ever use, except in an emergency.  Emergencies happen, and age of accounts matter for score stability.  In fact, during and following a fairly steep rebuild, age of accounts matters a lot.  And the relationships, as they age, sometimes matter, too, when there is another, better credit product available.  A card issuer that can't reduce my interest rate on an existing card, can issue a new, different card at a much lower rate.

 

When I first discovered this forum, I was surprised at the amount of credit some participants had.  It triggered a realization that there was a path to credit as a bigger and more accessible tool than I had realized.  It was inspirational from a utilitarian angle, not even slightly from a competitive angle, at least in my case.

 

Now I'm a rebuild success storyteller occasionally.  I know how it feels and works to see someone who walked in similar financially ragged shoes, walking in much better credit shoes within a reasonable time.  It does feel good to hopefully inspire a few others to accomplish greater credit goals than they may feel they can achieve otherwise.

 

I'm grateful for the credit choices I now have, and will have in the future, and use my options as a tool, using the best matching available credit, to the exact credit I need to use, to achieve my financial goals.  The ability to pick and choose which credit to use or not use, is valuable and not vane.






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Message 25 of 32
fm92555
Regular Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?

This is very similar to my experience in the last recession.

 

I also get high limits to combat utilization and for emergencies.


But I also use the high limits for another purpose. When I started my company and wanted to get credit I had to let them pull my personal credit in addition to my new business credit. If I didn't have good credit and high limits I would not have started off with large credit lines for my business. That is really valuable to me.

Message 26 of 32
NoMoreE46
Community Leader
Senior Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?


@acercode wrote:

I often see people with $100k+ credit lines and wondering what's the reason for it. I mean they never use them all and if they do, their accounts get shutdown or severedly reduced. So what's the purpose of it, is it just in case of an emergency or is it just part of the credit/FICO game?

 

 



Hey @acercode 

 

Can you cite examples of each?

Synchrony AA / CLDs don't count.

 

 

Message 27 of 32
the0walrus
Established Member

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?

I'm trying to get high credit limits just so I can have a very low utilization amount. That's really all that comes down to for me at least. I don't know about having $100,000 as a credit limit but $20,000 or $10,000 I'm okay with so if I spend $1,000 the utilization amount will be much less.

@acercode wrote:

I often see people with $100k+ credit lines and wondering what's the reason for it. I mean they never use them all and if they do, their accounts get shutdown or severedly reduced. So what's the purpose of it, is it just in case of an emergency or is it just part of the credit/FICO game?

 

 







Message 28 of 32
CreditCuriosity
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Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?

type up later when not slammed at work had stuff here, but not well formatted

Message 29 of 32
Horseshoez
Senior Contributor

Re: What's the purpose of having high CL if you never use it?


@the0walrus wrote:
I'm trying to get high credit limits just so I can have a very low utilization amount. That's really all that comes down to for me at least. I don't know about having $100,000 as a credit limit but $20,000 or $10,000 I'm okay with so if I spend $1,000 the utilization amount will be much less.

@acercode wrote:

I often see people with $100k+ credit lines and wondering what's the reason for it. I mean they never use them all and if they do, their accounts get shutdown or severedly reduced. So what's the purpose of it, is it just in case of an emergency or is it just part of the credit/FICO game?

 

 



If you pay before the reporting date, your TCL is pretty much irrelevant.

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