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I lost 6 points for getting a CLI

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indiolatino61
Valued Contributor

Re: I lost 6 points for getting a CLI


@Patient957 wrote:

Eq Fico 8 went from 814 to 808 when my JC Penney store card reported today.  The only difference between my Eq report at 814 and and 808 is a CLI on that card from $3K to $5K.

 

At first I thought, there must be something else.  But after inspecting both reports, there isn't.  So all that's left for me to do is to try to understand why.

 

Some data points:

TCL (revolving):

41,400 reporting, before CLI

43,400 reporting, after CLI

7 cards total, 6 bankcards, 1 store card (JCP)

Revolving balance: $119 (before and after CLI)

3 bankcards cards reporting balances , $93, $18, $8

 

Now my best guess as to why this happened:

 

Before the CLI, the JCP card represented 7% of my total available revolving credit (3000/41,400 = 7%)

 

After the CLI, the JCP card represented 12% of my total available revolving credit (5000/43,400 = 12%)

 

So my theory is there may be scoring factor for percentage of non-bankcard (i.e. store card) revolving credit, with a penalty at a threshold of 10%.

 

Anyone ever see anything like this before?   Have any other theories?

@Thomas_Thumb ?

@SouthJamaica ?


What's so difficult to understand...FICO scoring is so simple, transparent and straightforward...lol?

Message 11 of 17
Patient957
Established Contributor

Re: I lost 6 points for getting a CLI

Okay, so at this point, I can say my theory was WRONG.

 

Experian updated with the CLI and did not budge.

 

In addition, I got the 6 points back on Equifax, in two increments of 2 and then 4 points, three days apart.  Here's the chain of alerts:

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I don't know the reason(s) behind these changes, but Experian was not affected.  This weekend I should have some time to comb over my reports to try to figure it out.

 

But I know enough now to say the original theory is wrong.  Something else caused the changes.  I suppose it's possible it was just some MF glitch.

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: I lost 6 points for getting a CLI


@Patient957 wrote:

Okay, so at this point, I can say my theory was WRONG.

 

Experian updated with the CLI and did not budge......

 

I don't know the reason(s) behind these changes, but Experian was not affected.  This weekend I should have some time to comb over my reports to try to figure it out.

 

But I know enough now to say the original theory is wrong.  Something else caused the changes.  I suppose it's possible it was just some MF glitch.


Too bad you can't edit the headline.


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




Message 13 of 17
indiolatino61
Valued Contributor

Re: I lost 6 points for getting a CLI


@SouthJamaica wrote:

@Patient957 wrote:

Okay, so at this point, I can say my theory was WRONG.

 

Experian updated with the CLI and did not budge......

 

I don't know the reason(s) behind these changes, but Experian was not affected.  This weekend I should have some time to comb over my reports to try to figure it out.

 

But I know enough now to say the original theory is wrong.  Something else caused the changes.  I suppose it's possible it was just some MF glitch.


Too bad you can't edit the headline.


I know you're just kidding, but mistakes are a learning tool. I think it is more beneficial to admit and highlight your error and help others.

Message 14 of 17
SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: I lost 6 points for getting a CLI


@indiolatino61 wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

@Patient957 wrote:

Okay, so at this point, I can say my theory was WRONG.

 

Experian updated with the CLI and did not budge......

 

I don't know the reason(s) behind these changes, but Experian was not affected.  This weekend I should have some time to comb over my reports to try to figure it out.

 

But I know enough now to say the original theory is wrong.  Something else caused the changes.  I suppose it's possible it was just some MF glitch.


Too bad you can't edit the headline.


I know you're just kidding, but mistakes are a learning tool. I think it is more beneficial to admit and highlight your error and help others.


Actually I wasn't kidding. So often I see posts from people who are saying something that is dead wrong which start out "somewhere I read that....."  I can just see someone putting up a post one day that says "Somewhere I read that you can get a score decrease from a credit limit increase". It's better to correct erroneous statements than to leave them sitting there.

 

Unfortunately, MyFICO has changed its software so that one can no longer edit a post after a short period of time has passed.


Total revolving limits 569520 (505320 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




Message 15 of 17
indiolatino61
Valued Contributor

Re: I lost 6 points for getting a CLI


@SouthJamaica wrote:

@indiolatino61 wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

@Patient957 wrote:

Okay, so at this point, I can say my theory was WRONG.

 

Experian updated with the CLI and did not budge......

 

I don't know the reason(s) behind these changes, but Experian was not affected.  This weekend I should have some time to comb over my reports to try to figure it out.

 

But I know enough now to say the original theory is wrong.  Something else caused the changes.  I suppose it's possible it was just some MF glitch.


Too bad you can't edit the headline.


I know you're just kidding, but mistakes are a learning tool. I think it is more beneficial to admit and highlight your error and help others.


Actually I wasn't kidding. So often I see posts from people who are saying something that is dead wrong which start out "somewhere I read that....."  I can just see someone putting up a post one day that says "Somewhere I read that you can get a score decrease from a credit limit increase". It's better to correct erroneous statements than to leave them sitting there.

 

Unfortunately, MyFICO has changed its software so that one can no longer edit a post after a short period of time has passed.


I see your point, but at least here most posts that are in error include an update correcting the wrong information. I usually read all the subsequent posts, not just the beginning few. I hope most people do that here and not just take a dramatic headline at face value. I agree, wrong information is worse than no information.

Update: Now I see...yes, in the past post titles as well as the body were able to be corrected. I suppose a new post would be needed to correct errors too old to be corrected directly.  Sorry for my confusion and thanks.

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Thestickybandit
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Re: I lost 6 points for getting a CLI

Yes I experienced the same thing but this is def. caused by something underlying
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