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No changes in TU report, but changes in TU scores...

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Anonymous
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No changes in TU report, but changes in TU scores...

So I took a drop across the board on TU today.

FICO 08                     743->739

FICO 04                     713->711

FICO AUTO 8            764->758

FICO AUTO 4            733->731

FICO BANKCARD 8  758->754

FICO BANKCARD 4  719->717

Not a big drop, but a psychological drop as my TU dropped below 740 and the pretty green circle turned to yellow.

I am not worried about a couple of points, but I wish I could see the causality.

I'm confused as there is absolutely no change at all in my report since my 3B pull on 6/28.

I pulled TU today to see what they heck might be going on and no change in anything in the report.

Under FICO Score Ingredients "Amount of New Credit" went from Green "Very Good" to Yellow "Good"

I have gone over the reports with a fine tooth comb and there is no difference at all in the reports.

Any idea what may have created this change?

 

Is it possible that inquiries don't hit for 30 days?  That's what I am starting to think from reading about "Amount of New Credit" Ingredient.

Went from 2 -> 3 inquiries on 6/6/15.

I have a 6/6/15 HP (that I was told would be an SP).

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: No changes in TU report, but changes in TU scores...


@Anonymous wrote:

So I took a drop across the board on TU today.

FICO 08                     743->739

FICO 04                     713->711

FICO AUTO 8            764->758

FICO AUTO 4            733->731

FICO BANKCARD 8  758->754

FICO BANKCARD 4  719->717

Not a big drop, but a psychological drop as my TU dropped below 740 and the pretty green circle turned to yellow.

I am not worried about a couple of points, but I wish I could see the causality.

I'm confused as there is absolutely no change at all in my report since my 3B pull on 6/28.

I pulled TU today to see what they heck might be going on and no change in anything in the report.

Under FICO Score Ingredients "Amount of New Credit" went from Green "Very Good" to Yellow "Good"

I have gone over the reports with a fine tooth comb and there is no difference at all in the reports.

Any idea what may have created this change?

 

Is it possible that inquiries don't hit for 30 days?  That's what I am starting to think from reading about "Amount of New Credit" Ingredient.

Went from 2 -> 3 inquiries on 6/6/15.

I have a 6/6/15 HP (that I was told would be an SP).


Depends how it's coded; there are some grace periods for different types of inquiries mostly related to rate shopping.

 

In my case I recently took a drop 30 days after starting the mortgage process... fortunately didn't kick my mid score down a tier.




        
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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: No changes in TU report, but changes in TU scores...


@Anonymous wrote:

So I took a drop across the board on TU today.

FICO 08                     743->739

FICO 04                     713->711

FICO AUTO 8            764->758

FICO AUTO 4            733->731

FICO BANKCARD 8  758->754

FICO BANKCARD 4  719->717

Not a big drop, but a psychological drop as my TU dropped below 740 and the pretty green circle turned to yellow.

I am not worried about a couple of points, but I wish I could see the causality.

I'm confused as there is absolutely no change at all in my report since my 3B pull on 6/28.

I pulled TU today to see what they heck might be going on and no change in anything in the report.

Under FICO Score Ingredients "Amount of New Credit" went from Green "Very Good" to Yellow "Good"

I have gone over the reports with a fine tooth comb and there is no difference at all in the reports.

Any idea what may have created this change?

 

Is it possible that inquiries don't hit for 30 days?  That's what I am starting to think from reading about "Amount of New Credit" Ingredient.

Went from 2 -> 3 inquiries on 6/6/15.

I have a 6/6/15 HP (that I was told would be an SP).


What were your TU scores on June 10? on May 10? on April 10?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: No changes in TU report, but changes in TU scores...

Didn't pull reports, but from the graph for TU 08

 

about the following dates

April 10 737

April 21 utilization taken to 8% from 13% score up to 743

May 10  743

June 6 HP inquiry coded "miscellaneous and public reporting"

June 10 743

June 28 743

 

 

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: No changes in TU report, but changes in TU scores...

These score instances are from MyFICO, or from TransUnion directly?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: No changes in TU report, but changes in TU scores...

myFICO... They are TU08 scores as noted above.

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: No changes in TU report, but changes in TU scores...

Did that INQ lead to a card being added to your reporting?

How many cards have you got, and what kind of aging on those?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: No changes in TU report, but changes in TU scores...

No, it wasn't for a card, should have been a soft but transunion/TURSS won't budge on fixing it as puller made a mistake..

Only 3 cards all 8-9 years old

oldest account 18 years, AAoA 8 years

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: No changes in TU report, but changes in TU scores...


@Anonymous wrote:

No, it wasn't for a card, should have been a soft but transunion/TURSS won't budge on fixing it as puller made a mistake..

Only 3 cards all 8-9 years old

oldest account 18 years, AAoA 8 years


It is wierd. I wonder if Revelate's comment applies. Since this may have been coded as a non-creditcard INQ, the score hit waits 30 days to allow all the related potential similarly non-CC coded INQ to accumulate, whether they do or not, and then a few days ago "Times Up!" and the score hit results.

 

Other than that, it's gremlins, and no one likes gremlins.

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Anonymous
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Re: No changes in TU report, but changes in TU scores...

Thanks, it's good to know I'm not the only one that finds it strange.

 

I have an inquiry that will fall off first week in September, if the 4 points return, I think we'll know it was the inquiry.

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