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imaximous
Valued Contributor

Need new strategy to trigger auto CLI with Chase

Here's the deal. I've had my Chase Amazon since March 2017 and FU for just over a week. Both have annoying $500 CLs. Both got denied first, and then approved with recon. CSP also got denied and failed again in epic recon.

With the Amazon card, I was charging a good amount right up to the $500 limit, paying down, charging again, and paying off before statement cut. I kept doing that for months till now, and not a penny CLI from Chase. 

So now, I'm thinking of doing the opposite, that is, maxing out completely both cards and PIF but after the statement is generated, so basically, I'll have a utilization of nearly 100% month after month to see what happens. 

I have over $100k in individual credit, where most cards are at $10k or more and up to $33k highest TL. If I count the cards where I'm an AU with my wife, then easily over $200 - $250k in credit. So my total utilization will always stay at less than 3 - 5%.

Do you think this strategy may get me a CLI with Chase?

How badly can this affect my score and perception from the other banks? I don't want to trigger an alert that may cause CLDs from them because I'm maxing out $500 limits. 

Thoughts?

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toadsworth
Regular Contributor

Re: Need new strategy to trigger auto CLI with Chase

You'll take a score hit from letting 90%+ util report on a card. Heck, I took a score hit today from letting utilization on one of my accounts increase from 8% to 11%. I recall having a 20 point drop from going 12% util to 33% on a single card, and that was with my total overall utilization still under 9%. Be careful.

Kind of have everything I want now, creditwise. Undeliberately gardening until I have some spending to do and find a 100,000 Amex Platinum offer lol

Started my credit journey August 2016, after abstaining from credit for years after some poor financial choices in high school. Started with scores in the 580s. Current scores 11/6/18 - EQ: 754 TU: 757 EX: 743

From oldest to newest: DuPage CU Visa Platinum, SL 500 now 3750, Cap1 Platinum SL 300 PC'd to QS now 1600, Alliant Credit Union Share Secured Loan $500, Amex BCE SL 5000 now 600, Neiman Marcus SL 700 now 10000, Target RedCard SL 400 now 2900, Amex ED SL 10000 now 500 (combined with Cash Magnet), Chase AARP SL 800 now 3300, Chase Amazon Prime SL 1000 now 10000, Honda Lease, Discover it SL 1000 now 7000, Synchrony PayPal 2% CB SL 3000 now 10000, Barclays Uber Visa SL 800 now 2100, Citi ThankYou Preferred SL 3300 now 5300, Chase Ritz-Carlton SL 10000 now 1500 (moved to other cards to get annual fee refund), Comenity Total Rewards Visa SL 2000 now 3250, US Bank Cash+ SL 500 recon'd to 10000, US Bank Reserve LOC 1000, Union Bank Rewards Visa SL 5000 now 5000, Amex Cash Magnet SL 9900 now 20000, Cap1 Venture SL 10000 now 10000, Discover it 3000 SL now 4000, Amex SPG Luxury 3100 SL now 3100, Amex Amazon Business Prime 10000 SL now 10000, Amex Gold NPSL, US Bank Premier LOC 5000, US Bank Visa Platinum 5400 SL currently reconning

Combined revolving CL $135,300

Goal: Spring 2019 800+ club, $50,000 combined Amex limit
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Anonymous
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Re: Need new strategy to trigger auto CLI with Chase

ABCD did a little research about Chase auto CLI a while  back. The Chase INK and one other were the most likely to get auto CLI. We got a CLI on our Chase INk $13K limit to start after charging  over $4K one month and paying it down all but $1K before statement and paid then the $1K shortly after statement dropped. It just popped up one morning.

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Anonymous
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Re: Need new strategy to trigger auto CLI with Chase

Lots of swipes per month and PIF. They love swipe fees. At least for me it got me an auto increase after six months. 2k to 4K. I only spent $200 to $300 per month and only used the bonus categories.

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imaximous
Valued Contributor

Re: Need new strategy to trigger auto CLI with Chase


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You'll take a score hit from letting 90%+ util report on a card. Heck, I took a score hit today from letting utilization on one of my accounts increase from 8% to 11%. I recall having a 20 point drop from going 12% util to 33% on a single card, and that was with my total overall utilization still under 9%. Be careful.


Thanks for sharing that data. I was afraid that could happen because of the high utilization, but I figured what bank is going to care about 500 bucks.

I don't think my credit dropped that much when I totally maxed out my Lowe's card. I applied in store and got a $5k SL, so I charged $5k on it that same night, and the balance on a different card. The reason was a 24 month interest free promo, so I was paying $200 a month on it for a few months till I started seeing CLIs. Now it's at almost $10k CL and I haven't charged a penny since that $5k purchase just about a year ago, and I still owe like $2k. I don't pay it off because it's free money.

I recently applied for a few cards and based on the approval letters, my TU is 752 and EX is 751. I'll find out what EQ is this week when I get the letter from my last approval.

A part of me just says, F*** Chase, but I'm making it my goal to get them to open up to me again. 

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imaximous
Valued Contributor

Re: Need new strategy to trigger auto CLI with Chase


wrote:

ABCD did a little research about Chase auto CLI a while  back. The Chase INK and one other were the most likely to get auto CLI. We got a CLI on our Chase INk $13K limit to start after charging  over $4K one month and paying it down all but $1K before statement and paid then the $1K shortly after statement dropped. It just popped up one morning.


I think people like me, who get $500 SLs out of pure pity from the analysts, are put in a pool where no one gets CLIs without actually requesting, and then begging during recon.

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imaximous
Valued Contributor

Re: Need new strategy to trigger auto CLI with Chase


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Lots of swipes per month and PIF. They love swipe fees. At least for me it got me an auto increase after six months. 2k to 4K. I only spent $200 to $300 per month and only used the bonus categories.


That's what I was doing with the Amazon card, and I had to pay it down several times a month some times to be able to use it again. I got nothing from them. $500 barely covers my gas/electric bill.

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Anonymous
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Re: Need new strategy to trigger auto CLI with Chase


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Here's the deal. I've had my Chase Amazon since March 2017 and FU for just over a week. Both have annoying $500 CLs. Both got denied first, and then approved with recon. CSP also got denied and failed again in epic recon.

With the Amazon card, I was charging a good amount right up to the $500 limit, paying down, charging again, and paying off before statement cut. I kept doing that for months till now, and not a penny CLI from Chase. 

So now, I'm thinking of doing the opposite, that is, maxing out completely both cards and PIF but after the statement is generated, so basically, I'll have a utilization of nearly 100% month after month to see what happens. 

I have over $100k in individual credit, where most cards are at $10k or more and up to $33k highest TL. If I count the cards where I'm an AU with my wife, then easily over $200 - $250k in credit. So my total utilization will always stay at less than 3 - 5%.

Do you think this strategy may get me a CLI with Chase?

How badly can this affect my score and perception from the other banks? I don't want to trigger an alert that may cause CLDs from them because I'm maxing out $500 limits. 

Thoughts?


Need a little more info about your credit profile to help define a strategy.

 

1.) Did you burn Chase in your BK7 from 2011? If so, approx how much?

2.) Is the BK7 Still showing on your EX/EQ/TU Reports?

3.) What are your current FICO 8''s and what is your EQ FICO 5?

4.) Approx Individual & Household Income

5.) INQs EX/EQ/TU 

  • Last 12 mths
  • Last 24 mths

6.) New Accounts in last 12/24 months

7.) Any other baddies on your reports

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imaximous
Valued Contributor

Re: Need new strategy to trigger auto CLI with Chase



Need a little more info about your credit profile to help define a strategy.

 

1.) Did you burn Chase in your BK7 from 2011? If so, approx how much?

2.) Is the BK7 Still showing on your EX/EQ/TU Reports?

3.) What are your current FICO 8''s and what is your EQ FICO 5?

4.) Approx Individual & Household Income

5.) INQs EX/EQ/TU 

  • Last 12 mths
  • Last 24 mths

6.) New Accounts in last 12/24 months

7.) Any other baddies on your reports


1. Yes. Not sure exact amount. A few thousand.

2. Yes.

3. Score is 751 EX as per denial letters from Chase

4. North of 100k

5. Ex:11 / TU: 9 / EQ: 5

6. 7

7. Spotless since BK

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Need new strategy to trigger auto CLI with Chase


wrote:

Here's the deal. I've had my Chase Amazon since March 2017 and FU for just over a week. Both have annoying $500 CLs. Both got denied first, and then approved with recon. CSP also got denied and failed again in epic recon.

With the Amazon card, I was charging a good amount right up to the $500 limit, paying down, charging again, and paying off before statement cut. I kept doing that for months till now, and not a penny CLI from Chase. 

So now, I'm thinking of doing the opposite, that is, maxing out completely both cards and PIF but after the statement is generated, so basically, I'll have a utilization of nearly 100% month after month to see what happens. 

I have over $100k in individual credit, where most cards are at $10k or more and up to $33k highest TL. If I count the cards where I'm an AU with my wife, then easily over $200 - $250k in credit. So my total utilization will always stay at less than 3 - 5%.

Do you think this strategy may get me a CLI with Chase?

How badly can this affect my score and perception from the other banks? I don't want to trigger an alert that may cause CLDs from them because I'm maxing out $500 limits. 

Thoughts?


Maxing out your cards will wreck your FICO scores.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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